An angry mob allegedly beat them. The police charged them. The municipality voted for one of the most severe anti-trans bathroom ordinances in the country.

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[–] 54 points 2 months ago (15 children)

It's infuriating that the mob just went on with their day.

I do wonder what the right wing fanatics are going to say about gun control when someone shoots a would be lynch mob dead.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Guarantee in this case it would be some BS about trans people being unhinged or the most likely mass shooters.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Yep, nothing would make the Heritage foundation happier than a trans person defending themselves from mob violence with a firearm. Gives them an excuse to start provoking pogroms

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Bitch what do you think they're doing? You think they can't just make some shit up when its time? Please cut this victim blaming the fuck out.

    Good behavior will not save you. Making them afraid might.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Are you replying to the right comment? You are agreeing with what they just said here.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Read more carefully.

    cmbabul basically said, "trans people shouldn't defend themselves, as that would just embolden bigots." Primecf pointed out that bigots will just make shit up, as Republicans do when they pretend every mass shooter is trans.

    cmbabul is demonstrating behavior found among some allies, where they nominally support trans rights, but get really uncomfortable with the idea of a minority group defending itself with lethal violence. Minorities are meant to be protected in a parental way by the majority. Minorities are not meant to have agency of their own, certainly not in the realm of self-defense.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    Maybe that's the subtext, but I don't see how these two things can't be true at once :

    1. The Heritage Foundation will spin any resistance as an attack.
    2. Let's make them afraid.

    To me, both comments are compatible and don't have a necessary contradiction.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    That’s not at all what I said, they absolutely must arm and defend themselves, but it’s delusion to think the right will not use it as a cudgel to enact even more violence.

    Predicting the behavior of the enemy isn’t telling anyone they should or shouldn’t do anything.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Where did I ever say they shouldn’t defend themselves? Understanding what will happen next doesn’t equate with advocating they stand down and let themselves die.

    Literally everyone that ain’t a fascist should arm themselves and use those arms when their safety is in peril. Especially marginalized people. And if a fucking lynch mob is after anyone they should mow them down.

    But that’s not gonna happen in a vacuum and there will at least be an attempt to utilize that as a catalyst for even more violence upon trans people. Please tell me what you think the reaction by the right will be when something like that inevitably occurs?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    There’s so much it’s hard to keep track but wasn’t there already a recent story about a trans person who was iirc knocked down, pulled their gun, and was then charged with brandishing or something similar?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Oh yeah all America needs is a mass shooting and they'll enshrine gun control.... Like if a school ever got shot up, it would be national gun control the next day. \s

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