Man, the fact the 'About' page was plainly written by an LLM doesn't bode well for "I whipped up an alternative to Facebook Marketplace as a side project lol PS: no business experience".
I can't believe anyone on Lemmy is taking this uncritcally.
Man, the fact the 'About' page was plainly written by an LLM doesn't bode well for "I whipped up an alternative to Facebook Marketplace as a side project lol PS: no business experience".
I can't believe anyone on Lemmy is taking this uncritcally.
This looks neat. Have you heard of the Fediverse project Flohmarkt? It seems fairly similar in concept.
Fucking hell yes!
American, so, not gonna be able to participate locally, but yeah, if we could all somehow have an opensource, federated version of craigslist/FB market?
Absolutely yes.
And even if not, still a great project!
Hell yeah! I miss the old Craigslist it shit now and usable. But an open source market place like this one would be damn sweet!
With something like this... maybe a model where the code is open source, but also, somehow, a listing costs a small amount, to help cover server costs, would make sense?
A 'membership' regular payment model probably would not work.... for anyone other than 'supersellers'...
Or, maybe, there could be a way to... federate/distribute the server processing itself.
Allow vokunteers to run a process that basicslly serves as a distibuted host.
... hrm...
I hate Facebook so I like that part of this. My partner still has a Facebook, but only for the marketplace really. I don't live in Australia so it's not immediately useful for me, sadly.
Did you consider making it like self hostable and federated? A centralized platform owned by some dude, even some dude with an intact soul, brings some risks.
i haven’t read up about federation and the required APIs and connections required but totally open to it!
Look into activitypub protocol. I'm not saying to open-source your work if you don't want to. But this would start a movement.
I'm with you my dude. I fucking hate FB but it's been the only way to get local services now. (In America btw)
I feel this would be an effective way to actually remove some of the Meta stranglehold on this.
I have sadly come around to thinking that online "sell stuff" websites are basically doomed to failure. Marketplace now owns the space, but boy howdy, Craigslist really dropped the ball. Craigslist, as near as I can tell, has never once moved a muscle to fight scammers on their site. It straight-up drove the big crowds off. You want to buy or sell something on Craigslist now, you're dealing with 100 scammers for every 1 legitimate user. But I really like a lot of things about Craigslist: local versions of the site for every metro area and free to use for buying and only charges for selling big shit or jobs. That seems like a decent monetization scheme.
OfferUp and their ilk came in and proposed to fix the problems Craigslist wouldn't, but clearly making money was their focus, not a good customer experience. They force you to use their shit app to post listings, they serve up shit search results like Amazon for things you don't want and didn't ask for. They serve ads for shit you don't need and they also allow users to post dead listings for years on end - all to pump up their numbers and turn a profit while rendering the site about half useless.
I had my SO search for things on Marketplace too and I remember being very frustrated by how shit it was, but I can't remember what it was that was so terrible. Something about their lack of filtering making it so you had to search through gobs of crap to find things.
Anyway I wish you luck, but the secret sauce for a successful site like this seems to be elusive.
search through gobs of crap
it’s called ✧・゚: *✧・゚:*engagement*:・゚✧*:・゚✧
Something about their lack of filtering making it so you had to search through gobs of crap to find things
Marketplace is truly terrible when it comes to search filtering, so it probably was that. I've been trying to keep an eye out for a particular model of car and you simply cannot search for it on marketplace without getting results which are 99% other things. It can't even just return results for a particular make or model let alone basic characteristics like transmission type or drive type. The worst part is that we had this capability on places like carsales and gumtree but people decided they wanted to ignore all that and post ads on the most annoying option instead.
I see Craigslist's main problem as a little different than scammers. It's local pawn shops that flood the site with ads. It's hard to find individuals selling discounted stuff for cheap when 90% of all posts are the same 3 pawn shops selling their marked up crap.
I genuinely wish you luck.
I imagine your biggest challenge will be the network effect.
Toddlers clothes and toys and other gear might be a good niche market to target. They go through heaps of stuff. Probably the only reason I still have Facebook marketplace.
Do some physical posters at daycares and community centres.
I definitely think having some social media connections (maybe optional) would help.
It's not going to stop scammers. But it's a start to identifying.
When I was shopping for used strollers (shit is expensive), I stayed away from any profile that didn't look like they actually had kids. Too many drop ship mofos who sell knockoffs. I'm putting my kids in these things and seeing family pictures does provide a bit of trust.
Bring it on, with no meta in my life I have fomo for secondhand stuff
same! i’m building a pottery studio in my garage (ha) and everyone kept telling me they see 2nd hand wheels on marketplace all the time. i was like, great— that doesn’t help me. and thus garage was born. so if anyone had a secondhand wheel they’re selling, pop it on Garage and i’ll buy it lol
I like the idea OP, and i hope you suceed, but i am curious how you hope to overcome the pitfalls of sites like this such as the flood of 'new' tat being sold from fake cheap products to local services and the crazy buy a lifestyle book/course?
Are you going to moderate everhing on your own? that's a heck of a responsibility
Also i am a fan of local sales, and like you hate FB. The next best for me is Op shops, car boots and antique shops. I am finding issues with the existing market in.
Ebay , local search ability, say i wanna just look at furniture, i could previously select the catogory and then filter by closest, in the last few years it takes me to a sales like page and tries to narrow me down to a object such as a chair or a table. Searching furniture' is quite specific. So either of those ways kinda makes it so i miss out on random items.
Gumtree: To slow and too full of other spam...want a jobs, buy your dogfood in bulk scammers etc
Vinted: Closest ideological but it seems to be tailored to clothing and smaller items. Selling items from 2106 (primark/kmart level stuff) and listing it as vintage or rare makes me close my computer in a rage.
There is defo a space in the market for your idea i just think you need to figure the niche and be objective about resources of management.
Damn this awesome! Can please have this for my country and state?
The second option to market place was gumtree no? So you're actually the third...
yeah but Gumtree seems dead af lol. Idk, maybe Garage won’t go anywhere. i’m a cyber security professional not a business person lol
Does Garage offer something Gumtree doesn't?
a simple privacy policy, clean ad-free browsing, and most importantly: dark mode. but look, not really. if you take a look at Gumtree tho, it’s pretty dead. searching for a pottery wheel around Melbourne has listings with ages from the earliest 18 weeks and the average of about one year. marketplace came in and ate Gumtree, so unless it does something radically different soon, i think it’s just going to die.
Gumtree seems dead af lol
It's the place to be if you want to buy an ebike or electric scooter from the, uh, legitimate owner, that for some reason just happens to be missing its charger.
For what it’s worth, Gumtree now belongs to eBay I believe. What they get out of it, I have no idea.
The last thing I sold, I used Gumtree. I waited ages to sell it, I didn’t have to and it ended up going to the right person which was important for this item. It still worked okay for me.
I like this, I think it’s worth getting behind.
used to be. Gumtree.com.au is owned by some company called The Market Ltd. based out of Perth. their share price has been tanking for years though, so i assume they’re just letting gumtree die
I'm curious why you would make it so "local". The internet is global, if it's on the net it's accessible from anywhere. Would it be much more work for you to make it work globally?
uh… mostly bc of my bank account lol i can’t afford to host a global platform
Because for second hand goods it's not worth it to ship overseas
I think it should be local. Thats the point of local pickup and sales. Its an area ebay has moved away from and gum-tree does but with no real moderation.
Not sure why your comment get downvotes. I had just the same question...
There are really good usages for local.
I'm not buying a couch from someone 300 miles away.
There's also buy nothing groups. You typically pick it up if it's within driving/walking distance.
The cost of shipping is also bananas. I can buy a used lamp for $3 from a neighbor, or spend $20 for that same used lamp with shipping.
Because it's obtuse, why doesn't every app ever made serve the entire globe? It's the same reason OP didnt make his to do so either.
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