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submitted 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) by button_masher@lemmy.ml to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

I'm struggling getting back into "serious" reading and feel like my physical posture and environment is hindering me.

I used to read a lot (have inhaled many a Brandon Sanderson books on release) but I can't get into reading "hard" books. I read mainly in bed (with my kobo) but finding it tricky and I am turning into a hunchback. Audiobooks while cycling)/gym is great, but bit distracting for "hard" books.

How do ye do it?

  • Do you have a fav chair (will accept pictures if you could share!) or environment (like a reading nook)?
  • When and how do you make time to "digest" books?
  • Do you take notes and if so, how?
  • bonus question: what was a recent hard book that you enjoyed (and made you reframe stuff) and would recommend?

Thank you!

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[-] Carl@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Most of my reading is done via audiobooks these days, simply because I can listen while doing other tasks. I can wash the dishes, vacuum the house, etc, and those things would normally prevent me from reading. But with audiobooks, that isn’t a concern. Once I started listening to audiobooks, my annual book count went from ~12 to +60. Simply because I don’t have enough time to dedicate just to sitting in one spot staring at pages.

For visual reading, I tend to use my kobo. I got particularly lazy about bed-reading though. I got a gooseneck mount. It attaches to my headboard, and holds my kobo wherever I want. Combine that with a Bluetooth page-turn remote, and I can comfortably lay in bed and read without even needing to keep my hands on the ereader. In terms of comfort, the mount and remote are the two single greatest investments I ever made, and they fundamentally changed the way I think about reading in bed.

[-] hoch@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago
[-] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 minutes ago

Yep this is all I came to the thread for

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Do you actually want to read them, firstly? I can read "hard" books just fine when they're on a topic I'm genuinely interested in and I actually want to read the book. But if I force myself to read a "hard" book on something I don't care about, it'll be painful.

I always highlight and annotate non-fiction with any thoughts/comments/etc, and if it's a work I expect to find particularly valuable, I also take separate notes. Usually these are digital notes in the note-taking app of my choice (currently Notesnook), but for some books I get a physical notebook. It also helps motivate me if I get some nice highlighters and pens and take pretty notes.

[-] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I usually read for pleasure. I prefer fiction and read some nonfiction.

  • iPad, Libby app, in a keyboard case, on pillows on my lap on the couch. Fiction in the morning with coffee.
  • I sometimes highlight or save quotes but don’t often take notes. I will discuss with my partner or friends if it comes up.
  • Digestion happens naturally I guess!
  • The Gutenberg Parenthesis was a good read and dense. I read it over a few weeks while going to sleep on my phone.
[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

I dont, I get audiobooks and listen to them on my commute.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 4 hours ago

I don't. One thing that makes it harder is I have bifocals now. I was near sighted my whole life but man far sighted is a bitch.

[-] OldGrayDog@fedinsfw.app 6 points 5 hours ago

One word at a time.

[-] trashcroissant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

I just listen to them. It does take more concentration to listen to 'hard' books but then I do something more mindless like cross stitch or colouring. Just anything to keep my hands busy so I can focus on the content. Sometimes I will also have a digital version of the book so I can re-read something if I'm getting stuck on a part.

They also sell kobo holders for bed, that might help you?

[-] WhisperingEye@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

In the words of the great Kirk Lazarus: what do you mean, you people?

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 4 points 5 hours ago

I mostly read lounged on the couch, long ways. Sometimes in bed with pillows to prop me up.

I mostly read ebooks and highlight passages in them. For physical books sometimes I'll take a picture of an important page I want to reference later.

Not sure what you mean by "hard books". I do have a bad habit of reading too quickly and not fully retaining everything. The last book I (re)read was House of Leaves. A classic. Highly recommend.

What is Hard Book for you ?

I tend to read political theories, feminist case studies or philosophy in silence or at least when I can have silence. If I’m tired I tend to put my earbuds on so I could cut the real world out

Reading academic papers is hard sometimes, some authors don’t have a good writing style (looking at you Deleuze). So in this case I read a little and alternate with an easier book

I found that reading hard book are like a muscle, it get easier

[-] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

Not sure what you mean by "hard" books...

I read pretty much anywhere I have time to, usually while laying in bed or out hammocking. I'd say my favorite spot is a nearby state park hammocking in one specific area that gets sun through the canopy but not so much it's overbearing on a warm day. It's just a great scene to occasionally pause and look around.

It's a lot easier to read in a cushioned chair if I'm reading a physical book, but I mostly read on my kobo as well, so I don't have to worry about weight making my arms uncomfortable to hold a book in reclined positions.

[-] dkppunk@piefed.social 6 points 7 hours ago

I read pretty much only fiction, but I’ll pick up nonfiction occasionally if it’s a topic that really interests me, usually insects or spiders 😁

I sit too much already, so I’ve been reading on my feet more. I’ll usually walk a path around my living room table or through a couple of rooms. It’s made it easier for me to read more that way because I’m not slumped over and hurting my back. I don’t walk fast, just a slow casual stroll on a set path where I know I won’t trip. Sometimes I’ll pause at a corner and lean against the wall for a few minutes before I start walking again.

  • bonus question: what was a recent hard book that you enjoyed (and made you reframe stuff) and would recommend?

A book I would recommend that made me reframe thoughts on autonomy was The Stars Are Legion by Kameron Hurley. There were parts that were pretty brutal and difficult to read, but I think it’s a great thought experiment. Annie Bot by Sierra Greer is also great in this area.

[-] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

If you are turning into a hunchback try holding the book at eye level instead of where you have to look down. I like those stick on stands, usually the ring ones, on my devices so I can do it one handed

[-] crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

My answer is different depending on if it's fiction or non.

Also context I'm in academia which means I read constantly for work. This sadly means though that I don't read much fiction or for fun. I do try and mediate that by reading poetry since they're short !

But when I do read for fun I tend to read before going to bed so I'm laying down in bed.

For non fiction I will read lots of places. And I pretty much can't digest the information unless I'm able to highlight and annotate what I'm reading. I try to read non fiction that is relevant to my research not before bed so as to retain the information a bit better.

Reading while taking a bath is nice !

[-] button_masher@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Ooh haven't taken a bath in years! Pray the book isn't too interesting otherwise you'll prune into old age.

Thanks for the input! If I may ask, where exactly do you do your academic reading? On your desk? And how do you make time/ritual for it?

[-] crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

Usually at a coffee shop. But I will also read at my home desk, at my office desk, in the bathtub haha, and sometimes outside on my porch.

The ritual thing is tricky for me because I'm kind of forced to make it routine. But I will say that you may want to think about when is your most alert focused time of the day. I try and force myself to start work as close to 930 as possible and have learned that I max out at deep focusing for reading and writing after like 2 - 3 hrs.

If I'm really not feeling it sometimes I'll just put a timer on and tell myself I'll just read even for five minutes! Five min is Better than no reading !

My biggest dilemma is that I have chronic pain issues in my neck and can't figure out how to hold the book properly to not exacerbate my neck pain! Haven't figured that one out.t hough

[-] s3rvant@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

I've settled into a Kobo for various reasons and tend to read while pacing my basement where it's quiet and a bit cooler.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Most of my nonfiction I do by audiobook while I walk in the morning. I find anything too strenuous and I can't concentrate. I do take notes, primarily by voice into Google keep. Though I did recently switch to a git repo tied to the zettel notes app since that's how I view my notes on android. Usually I process them out by the end of the week or so.

As far as good "hard books", I could recommend Fantasyland by Kurt Andersen if you're into a "how did we get here" story about the US, or A Thousand Brains by Jeff Hawkins if you like thinking about how our minds work and have interest in AGI. The last hard one I read was the dawn of everything by David Graeber and I found it to be absolutely fucking terrible for as much as people talk him up, would not recommend. There are some good ideas in it, but stylistically it's heavy on context and light direct points or logical threads.

Right now I'm mainlining dungeon crawler Carl and it's pretty entertaining, but weird that I have 2 of 3 books in progress being easy fiction.

[-] LeapSecond@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I think if a book is captivating enough, the environment doesn't matter too much. I do most of my reading in public transport, usually standing and reading on my phone. You can hold your phone in a way without slouching or your hand getting tired.

For books that are really demanding I may prefer reading at home, sitting on a chair or the bed. But I can't read while lying down, it's either super uncomfortable or I fall asleep. Physical books are nice when they're small but I'll still prefer the phone.

No notes or anything like that, maybe some underlining that I'll forget to get back to afterwards.

[-] Kovukono@pawb.social 1 points 6 hours ago

I can't give much advice on hard books, but I'm writing a book myself and I mostly read it like I read any other books. Kobo has a phone ebook app that you can use, though it's kind of trash sometimes. I prefer using the Kindle app for stability, but for both it's easy to take notes in-app. Since it's on my phone I can either spend a ton of time with it, or if I just want to read a bit while waiting for the bus or metro, I can do that, too. I can just transfer the notes elsewhere when I have time.

[-] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago

~~If by "hard" books you mean physical books, then counterpoint: why do you want to go back to reading physical books if:~~

  1. ~~Your physical posture is better for your health without them~~
  2. ~~if molding/adjusting your environment to be book friendly is too costly (mentally/physically/financially/what have you)~~

Scratch all that, I noticed upon reading further down in your post that you actually meant cognitively hard books to digest. 😅

Otherwise:

  • my favorite, or rather required, environment is outdoors. Indoors, I fall asleep from reading. I'd have to, figuratively, inject myself with caffeine or something to be able to read indoors. Here is one of my favorite spots:

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  • I digest each reading session by walking to and from work. I'm also single and have no (other) life, so I have lots of time for reflection. I also share my thoughts on the books with my family over Signal.
  • I'm always prepared to take notes, carrying around a notebook and a fountain pen, but it rarely happens. Perhaps if I had somebody in my everyday life with whom to share my notes? Even then, I would have to feel quite challenged, intrigued or provoked (in a good way) for it to be worthy of writing down.
[-] crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

Yes but I am looking for advice on how to make reading not physically hard on my neck! So any advice is welcome. I bought an ebook to even see if that could help somehow

[-] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

Try lying down on your back on a hard surface and put a foamroller behind your neck. Although the book becomes heavy pretty soon...

[-] lokalhorst@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago

I wanted to read more, so I started using bookwyrm at the start of this year. My SO and I set up a challenge - 12 books this year. It works and I am now at 8/12. I read fiction but also a lot of political literature.

Through some exciting fiction books you just read through - it's run, you get sucked into it and want to know what happens in the next chapter. Finding those is generally luck and really depends on your taste. The last book I read through this was was Lying on the Couch by Irvin D. Yalom. He is a famous psychologist that writes fiction, it's pretty easy to read but also has its depths. If you're interested in psychoanalysis, it's nice literature, I have read about 5 books from him.

Now, the "hard books" are different. There are different kind of hard books, some are very well written, others need a lot of background knowledge, others are just plain boring.

An important aspect for those books for me is, what is my motivation to read them? Do I think they are classics you need to have read, do I think the topic sounds interesting, or is it already part of a field I am familiar with?

In the latter case I will suck it in no matter what, at the moment I am reading a book about life in the early modern period in the holy Roman Empire.

I have another one from Herfried Münkler, a German political scientist which us particularly hard to read because you need so much background knowledge. I read it page by page, but only if I feel like it. There is no sense in forcing myself, I will experience the typical "reading but not understanding". I often read 1-2 pages because the content is so dense, and enjoy if I understood a topic. To give another example for the more international audiences, I read How Democracies Die by Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt. It is from the first Trump presidency so a bit outdated, but it was a really exciting read, I learned a lot about the US political system. I read through it within 2-3 weeks.

Now regarding the classics you need to read: Fuck that. There is so much classic literature that might be important, but it's just too boring or annoying to read. There are a lot of exceptions, but they are hard to find. The last one I read and was really happy about (also because it's short) is The Stranger from Albert Camus.

Okay, but here my absolute advice for serious reading: Never force yourself to read through a book you don't like. I am a bit of a perfectionist person myself and it was really hard to put a book away, but oh boy, reading is so much fun since I am doing it! I have about 7 books I started and I read them in parallel. One of then I haven't touched in 5 months and maybe I will never read it. Another one just takes time like the Münkler one and I will read through 3 others in the meantime. But fuck this "I need to finish a book I started", sentiment.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 hours ago

Environment is basically any. I used to read on my touchscreen 2-in-1 ThinkPad using Arianna from KDE.

But I stopped because of software annoyances.
At some point, native Arianna package broke on Arch. It's fixed now, but the UI has changed. In the past, while in portrait mode it also shown 2 columns, just slimmer ones (I think that's version 24, I am not currently on that laptop). Now it only shows 1 page in the middle of the screen.
I also have an old Flatpak version installed which still has the older UI (I believe the older native package didn't work with current dependencies), but simply the knowledge of that thing taking up in total 4GiB (as it's the only Flatpak I have) while the native version is 1.6MiB bothers me enough not to use it.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Personally I don't bed read because I try to make sure my bed is for sleep alone, which in turn makes it easier to fall asleep. Half laying on a couch works well for me, or lazing in a adirondack too as I can keep drinks nearby.

[-] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 1 points 8 hours ago

I do the thing you said doesn't work for you lol - I usually just sit on my bed to read; I put some pillows between the wall and the side of the bed and lounge

[-] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 0 points 6 hours ago

first of all i don't "read books" in the classical sense. i think that the better the author, the fewer words they need to get their point across. (there's a joke from zen buddhism that says that the truly wise master does not need a single word to make a student understand something.)

as a consequence, reading long texts and the accompanying physical pain are not an issue.

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