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Fetterman Is So Unpopular That He Loses to “Someone Else” by 18 Points in Poll (truthout.org)
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[–] 46 points 2 months ago

Democrats solidarity losing polls to "literally anyone else"

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    [–] 43 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The Dems will use this opportunity to run someone just as bad but who knows how to use the right language to make the bad things sound palatable.

    Then they'll blame us for losing

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    • [–] 43 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    He is being run out of town. What are the odds he flees to TelAviv?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Dude immediately moves to an illegal settlement (Sandals resort) in North Gaza and dies trying to parry an incoming Shahab-2

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Should've dodged and used invincibility frames. Rookie mistake.

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    • [–] 35 points 2 months ago

    "Someone else" is always appealing because people always want an alternative option. You can't smear or criticize Someone Else. As soon as you put a real figure in that position, they become less popular than a generalized idea of it.

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    [+] 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
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    [–] 25 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Cyclops bested by “nobody”

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    • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    I cant wait for this ogre to vanish into the dustbin of history.

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    [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    I lol'd pretty hard at some random comment from someone out of state praising Connor Lamb as a "progressive contender" to fetterman as if they had the slightest clue that those of us from his district know he's the most lukewarm plain toast centrist lib of all time

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    [+] 10 points 2 months ago (9 children)
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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Brain damage does not make someone a bad person. People with disabilities can still be politicians. His issue isn’t his disability but his cruel world view.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Brain damage does not make someone a bad person

    I don't want to be perceived as saying ableism is ok because that's not what I'm saying, also I didn't read the removed comment and this has nothing to do with whatever that said, but, uh, technically yeah brain damage absolutely can make you a "bad person" at least in terms of causing negative behaviors that otherwise wouldn't be there or intensifying ones that are

    like iirc the university of texas tower shooter in the 60s left a note requesting an autopsy because he himself didn't understand his own violent urges, they autopsied him and found a tumor pressing on his amygdala

    then there's, you know, all the football players with chronic trauma who have all kinds of issues

    I guess in the end it still doesn't make anyone a "bad" person because that's a moral judgment on issues that are ultimately out of their control

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I understand and there are several ways to interpret the sentence “brain damage does not make someone a bad person”. I agree that it can contribute to harmful behaviour in a similar way that stress does. But brain damage is not how you measure how someone is a bad or even incompetent person, you measure by their actions. When we’re talking about the horrible politics of someone with brain damage I find it ableist to focus on the brain damage instead of the bad politics.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I agree that it can contribute to harmful behaviour in a similar way that stress does.

    This kind of dismissiveness is ableist itself. I know you did not mean it to be, but it seems like you don't have an understanding or appreciation for how serious and personality-changing a brain injury can be if you're comparing it to something everyone, even the most privileged person on earth has experienced, stress. A traumatic brain injury can completely disrupt someone's personality in a way that "stress" never can. Someone who is merely stressed does not have an excuse for acting on violent impulses but someone with a serious brain injury can literally lose their impulse control.

    But brain damage is not how you measure how someone is a bad or even incompetent person, you measure by their actions

    A person's actions are mediated by their brain! Free will aside, where do you think behavior and action come from? It's the brain. The actions of a person after a TBI can be drastically different than how they would have acted before their brain damage. Brain injuries can completely change a person's ability to regulate their emotions which in turn changes their behavior, it can make them among other things more impulsive, more violent, and less empathetic, all of which obviously alters their behavior and actions.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    To your first point: frequent high levels of stress alters brain chemistry and definitely changes behaviour, often in a negative way. Short term high level stress affects behaviour very significantly.

    To your second point: the brain is very complex and barely understood by scientists. You are reducing brain damage to the most extreme examples you see in the news, while there are many other manifestations of brain damage. I have brain damage which affects my cognition, I have to regulate the impulses that my brain receives or it shuts down. The only behaviour change you’ll find in me is that I am less engaged in a direct conversation and sometimes struggle to find a word that I wanted to say.

    Just because a change in behaviour can occur with brain damage, hopefully does not mean that you meet someone with brain damage and immediately conclude that they’re a bad person. Hopefully you look at their actions and base your judgment on that. That’s what I mean when I say that actions rather than brain damage defines if someone is a bad person.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    I never said brain damage makes him a bad person. I was saying he does not have the cognitive capacity to serve as a senator. But yeah his worldview makes him a shitty person. I dont necessarily believe his shitty worldview is related to the fact that he clearly has brain damage. The two things are not mutually exclusive

    Mitch McConnell has a shitty worldview. I would never vote for the guy. But thats unrelated to the fact that he is not in a capable state to serve as a senator, which is a distinctly different reason I wouldnt vote for him. Same as the fact that hes older than dirt. Being old doesnt make you a bad person, hes just old and a bad person. The two things dont have to have anything to do with each other. Ive seen Fetterman myself and the guy is definitely not all there, and also he has a shitty worldview. Having met the guy I wouldnt even say he is a bad person. I think he is a confused person who is easily taken advantage of by significantly worse people. Not that it excuses his votes or newfound beliefs, but still

    If anything I believe those two very different things are separate issues that voters have with him, to the point where there is bipartisan support for replacing him with literally anyone else

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Nobody needs to be so fucking smart. Otherwise people would care about not catching covid, Wich does cause brain damage. But they don't. Because being a bit dumber won't affect their ability to work or enjoy life.

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    • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This says nothing about Fetterman that wouldn't apply to almost all other congressmen. We've seen it happen way more often than not in past presidential primary polling. Democratic voters will by and large prefer the abstract idea of a democratic politician to almost any democratic politician that exists in reality.

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