We must PROTECT the Children by ~~OUTLAWING Child Porn Creators!~~ ALLOWING Child Porn Creators to know EXACTLY where Children are ALL The time via ID Verifications!
Exactly when again is the wildest party on your friends’ island, Elon?
Elon was friend with Jeff but Jeff wasn't friends with him. Kinda awkward.
Dear Elon:
Your requests to visit the island for one of my wildest parties have become annoying, and I'm tired of side-stepping them, so I'm going to be straight with you: You will NOT be visiting my island.
It's hard enough to keep these girls in the game as it is, forcing them to pretend to enjoy fucking these fat old sweaty pervs. You are scary enough with your clothes on, I can't imagine how terrified the girls would be with a naked goblin hopping around, hollering incomprehensible nonsense.
So, the answer is No, you can't come to my island. Stop begging.
Your friend,
Jeff
...and why do you think your calls were sent to voicemail?
He literally begged Epstein to let him show up on the Epstein child sex trafficking island. It doesn't take a genius to answer the title.
I still find it kind of funny that even the worst human beings on the face of the Earth can't tolerate him. Fuck Musk.
I mean... why would you imagine a person would block the banning of child porn? Occam's razor says he enjoys child porn.
Honestly, fuck Musk, but the fact that we're willing to throw away all of our principles simply because Musk is involved is pretty terrifying to witness. Remember, every privacy-violating and rights-stripping law is sold as being "for the children." And those selling those laws make a point to sell the laws in ways that appeal to both sides. When selling it to Democrats, they'll highlight Musk's opposition. When selling it to Republicans, they would find some Democrat who opposed it. And people of both parties eat it right up.
For example, even the headline is deceiving. Think about it critically. Why would the Minnesota legislature need to ban AI-generated child porn? Child porn is already incredibly illegal, regardless of how it's made.
What the law actually does is to attempt to ban or restrict AI-based nudify apps, where you can upload an image of someone and have it remove their clothes. This applies to images of everyone, not just children. And just like the case of facial scans and ID uploading, inevitably such a law will restrict a hell of a lot more than just child porn.
From another article:
In the 38-page lawsuit, xAI — whose AI model chatbot and image generator Grok is available on the social media platform known as X, formerly Twitter, and elsewhere — said it does not contest the state’s interest in banning the distribution of AI-generated nude images of real people without their consent. But it said Minnesota’s law “extends far beyond that goal,” banning many constitutionally protected images and video and subjecting the company to a penalty of $500,000 per violation.
What legitimate uses might exist? Well what if I want to use a nudify program on images of myself? I don't particularly want to do that. But why shouldn't I be able to? My body. My image. My choice. My computer. What if a sex worker wants to do so? Or if you lock down LLMs to try to keep them from generating such images, what other types of images that have nothing to do with nonconsensual pornography will you also restrict?
You should generally be extremely skeptical of anyone selling a policy "for the children." In almost every case, the real goal is stripping away broader rights.
To me, this seems a lot like banning cameras in the name of fighting child pornography.
Think about it critically. Why would the Minnesota legislature need to ban AI-generated child porn? Child porn is already incredibly illegal, regardless of how it’s made.
To make a quick reply, you might want to look in to that. In some places if it isn't a deepfake of a real child it's as legal as the anime folk who draw the same awful shit, including some of the US.
Seems weird as fuck to me, because that's putting the burden of proof on law enforcement and the courts to show that a person or act in a very real looking image actually took place. Checking now I see some things saying it's not specifically criminalized in 10 states and some things saying 5.
I'd say at least the federal government has made it clear it's considered every bit as bad as non-ai images of the same thing, but I can't even bring myself to believe the federal government is doing a damn thing about child rape any more. :/
This image seems like misleading bull shit. This seems to be the law referenced: https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-artificial-intelligence-nudification-x-elon-musk-deepfake-131184be939d540de093b567b12c9e16
It makes companies liable for people using ai for nudification (which of course includes children). Musk argues the law is a bit to far reaching ( claims the law considers some body parts, that are commonly displayed in public, as private parts and also that the company can get in trouble for people nudifying themselves).
I don't know how legitimate Musk's concerns are, but the image is extremely misleading.
Dishonest clickbait for sure
Always relevant
The damages are brought up in a civil trial, so I guess while someone could bring a case to trial for nudifying themselves, I imagine it'd be tossed out immediately:
An individual depicted in an image or video that was nudified in violation of this section may bring a civil action in district court against the person who violated this section
These are the body parts listed:
"Intimate parts" includes the primary genital area, groin, inner thigh, buttocks, or breast of a human being.
I have no issues with completely banning those parts for children. Only a sick fuck like Elon would say any of those are normal to see on a child.
You can see most of that on my baby pictures.
From what I understand the law applies to adults too.
I'm all for stopping pedophiles, but laws need controlled scope and nuance. Reality is complex and I don't want to see innocent stuff criminalized more than we do already.
I haven't looked at this in depth, but some of the scholars I follow have suggested that this law is legally problematic, and there are good arguments to strike it down under the first amendment and section 230.
Section 230 is the federal safe harbor law that shields social media from liability for their users content, provided they take certain reasonable steps to moderate the user content. The federal law will preempt this Minnesota state law if they conflict.
But in the case of AI, it's company a generated content.
He shouldn't have shoved it into every perverts hands.
Law that bans AI nudes
Company fights it
Headline: OMG ELON MUSK WANTS KIDDIE PORN AAAAAAAAAA
Thank you, bluecheck fuckwads, paying his company to be noticed more, for your inaccurate clickbait shit-tier garbage. Our media landscapes' relationship with the truth wasn't tenuous enough, thanks for contributing!
Genuine question:
What's wrong with you?
But Elon Musk wants to offer a safe haven for CSAM creators.
To be fair, what's the point of the bill? Child porn is already illegal. It's like the bills banning non-citizens from voting.
While they're at it, why not ban murder, theft, and drunk driving?
Historically, bills like this that appear to be so obviously "good" are often traps that contain unrelated, nefarious shit. Like hiding a ban on abortion inside a bill that's supposed to be about banning something everyone hates.
I'm highly skeptical of the bill but at the same time I wouldn't put it past Elon to be against it for all the wrong reasons 🤷
While they’re at it, why not ban murder, theft, and drunk driving?
They already have.
I read the bill and there are explicit provisions about prohibiting websites from allowing users to create nudified images without technical skill. I don't know existing laws but they might not have put the onus on the company/website and just on the users. This is the full bill, it's a single page: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/94/2025/0/HF/1606/versions/latest/
EDIT: Should point out that the bill is for any unwanted AI Generated nudes of identifiable people, not just minors.
Exactly. It's all about nudification of anyone using AI tools. Not explicitly about children.
Yes, clarified my previous comment to include that fact since it was misleading based on the screenshot. Thanks.
CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Material), not child porn. Child porn implies they are complicit or that its a genre of porn. CSAM confirms that it exists exclusively to abuse children and they were abused in the making.
PORNOGRAPHY the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures, movies, or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
Pornography is not a wrong word to use, and children can never consent to sexual acts. If children are involved in pornography it is abuse material and nothing else. There is no need to make up a new word for it.
CSAM gives the same vibes as MAP instead of paedophile
For me the distinction lies in the word erotic. A basal attraction based on traits of the other. When two or more people are involved then I would expand the same criteria to all involved. And that's were I am getting stuck. The victim's are for sure not enjoying themselves and the interaction in general and dfntl arent attracted to the abuser.
My argument being: (child) sexual abuse (or rather violence) is shown to be about power and control rather than sexuality. Its just using the same media as sexual acts. So child abuse has as much to do with porn just as swimming does with being held underwater and drowned.
yes and we should normalize referring it to the abuse that it is, however, boomers reading shared fb posts don’t know what csam is and do know that “p*rn bad”
I imagine this is related to people using Grok to undress others?
Yup. This is basically Musk admitting it's a sizeable part of his revenue, he knows about it and doesn't want to lose the clientele. Ghoulish.
You realize this will be how age-gating and real identification for internet access will be presented for legislation across the western world, right?
It's his free speech to let others see your children naked!
Oh gee, I simply can’t imagine why. It’s a total mystery. /headscratch
Apropos of nothing, he’s always struck me as the sort of person who ‘well actually’s with ephebophilia, and his weird breeder fetish totally squicks me out.
Ephebophilia is such an insane attempt for justification. Like, 'I'm only attracted to older children so it's fine!'
I'm guessing for 4 reasons,
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