From a sociopolitical perspective, I very much hate red states, and I hate many of the people living in red states, but I don't hate everyone in red states. There are many, many good people who are unfortunately trapped in those states through no fault of their own.
I say this as someone who is trapped in a red area in a purple state.
It's an easy way to drum up support from people who have never or rarely traveled, are already conservative, and have bought into the culture war that has been created to justify MAGA doing MAGA shit.
Yeah, there are people who will repeat the same talking points you've listed and even defend them with a surprising amount of anger, but they're mostly ignorant, predjudiced dipshits confirming their biases and parroting what they've heard. If you're a popular Republican and you blamed their problems on sunspots, they'd hate sunspots just as bad as they hate California.
It's not that they hate blue states because they went there and had a bad time or because of some kind of personal history. They hate blue states because that's what they think people in red states are supposed to do. If it someday goes out of style, they'll quit talking about it.
Common folk, salt of the earth, you know... morons.
It's a culture war. Advertising and PR is brainwashing and actually works for much of the population.
This is the result of decades of talk radio preaching christian or fundamentalist or reactionary values and talking points. Ever since 2008 the economic outlook has become much worse and fascism is on the rise. But fundamentally it's nothing new, playing one group of people against another. I'd recommend this book about political theory of anti fascism.
No. I live in a red state and hate it. I envy my blue state counterparts.
This 1000%. I'm looking for an exit.
Come on over. The water is great!
They despise the Americans they imagine live in blue states. The ones they meet in real life, probably not so much.
Sadly that does tend to be how most biggotry works. they quickly conclude that most the people they actually meet and spend time with are "the good ones". Kind of the way it usually works, the ones that don't fall into their expectations must be the exceptions... so that the rule can stay in place.
Wow this is my dads exact mentality I didn’t realize this was how it worked I thought it was just him.
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing
Yes, entire states think one way.
Apparently there are stupid questions.
Fuck no live in Oklahoma and damn sure don't believe any of that bullshit. Maybe Maga and Republican voters but some of us are just trapped here and wish we were blue.
Here there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers.
The county isn't really divided by state lines, it's divided by: urban v rural, college educated v non educated and rich v poor, as well culture, ethnicity and religion.
I would say the "heartland" of America is relatively culturally homogeneous, and many, if not most people from the heartland definitely seem not to like or trust the Pacific Coast states or the Northeast/Atlantic Coast area. If there's a big political divide in America I'd say it's more the interior v the coasts and big cities v small towns than red states v blue states.
It's mostly rural vs urban. Not uncommon to hear red small town people, who have never visited the blue population center of their state call it a crime ridden tax drain (lol) and vocally support secession.
It’s weird because I have a vague impression that in prior centuries, urbanites actively shunned and mocked rural folks aka “country bumpkins” and such. But these days it’s very much the other eay around. Rural folks are terrified of the city and city people don’t think about rural folks at all.
Meanwhile their towns are full of drugs and family annihilations.
I truly believe the rural population here has it 100% backwards regarding whether urban or rural areas are safer.
Go watch some bodycam footage. The wildest shit is all rural red state stuff. It is bad out there and they believe (very wrongly) that it's worse in the cities.
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My mom said she would never raise a kid in a small town because there is nothing to do except get in trouble. All her cousins either went to jail or got pregnant young, she figured a city has opportunities, summer jobs, libraries, rec centers, things to keep kids occupied and out of trouble.
It would be less boring, that's for sure
You make a good point. I remember when I was about to start school, my parents moved us to a rural area because they felt it was safer for raising children. The house we moved into was two doors down from a meth lab on one side and a pedo on the other. That was in the '80s.
That’s my Dad. Hasn’t been to a big city in 20 years minimum. Still convinced Chicago/LA/New York etc are violent third world cesspools.
I never expected this, but it's happened many times:
I live in a small town and my daughter just graduated from college in Detroit. When I tell people where she went to school, many of them are like "OMG REALLY?" "Weren't you scared for her?"
I just tell them "Not at all! It's a really nice city, and she's thinking of moving back out there!"
Which is true, and it blows their fucking minds.
Can you still get houses for $1 there? Worth going if true
No, but there's a few around here under 100k
Those tend to owe a lot of back taxes and need significant renovations
Do americans living in red States actually hate americans living in Blue States?
I'd also state it's urban vs rural, but other than that? Yes. 100% yes, yes they do. You have no idea. No really, because they're fucking cowardly about it. In the meatspace, they're polite. Online, or in company they think is on their side, they let it all hang out. And yes, they hate 'em all.
Meanwhile, I'd be surprised if you needed even two fingers to count people in Chicago who give a flying fuck about anyone or anything happening in any of the countless Nothingville USAs. To blue America, they don't matter, they'll never matter, and that's why they're mad.
You're right, of course. But just to strengthen your point, take Oklahoma - a red state where not a single county went blue in the last election. So even urban vs rural when it comes to OK City, not even enough there to make a single county blue.
I live in a purple (supposedly) state and my grandfather suggested at Christmas that crosses should be burned in the yards of people who had signs up for a black democratic politician. Had no fucking clue he was like that. Haven’t seen him since.
So it doesn’t have to be a blue state, I guess, is my answer.
A not insignificant amount despise their imagined "coastal elite city dweller".
Yes. My mother in law has repeatedly wished for the destruction of my home state (very blue), to my face, and said “I wish your family wasn’t out there.” This woman lives in a mobile home in literal swamp and has only left the state for some college football bowl games. Real classy.
Freedumb isn’t free either.
Many do. Many people living in blue states despise their neighbours too. I've always found it odd that people who hate half or more of their countrymen call themselves "Patriots." It's bad enough that they rationalize hate, but to somehow twist that into a caricature of love, it's just very contradictory.
It’s also the most normal thing ever. When have there not been regional rivalries and antipathies? Nation states have only been a thing g for like five minutes, historically. Local and regional identity has always been more important and it still is. If anything’s off in this picture it’s probably the notion of a “nation state” being a fake construct that people never actually bought into, not that people have somehow lost their ability to think like countrymen. They never knew.
I disagree! I have a very vivid stereotype in my brain of the good old days when Americans were Americans and hung together through thick and thin! Everything was better back in this fictional time!
they learn it in church. from the time they're tiny children they learn that even the most perfect being that could ever conceivably exist can decide that someone deserves to be tortured for eternity because they wore mixed fabrics, and still claim to love that person unconditionally
Not all of course, but when my mom (blue state) married my dad (red state) and they decided to live in the blue state, the family understanding was that the heathen harlots stole their perfect child from them. Never mind that he literally left the state on his 18th birthday looking for more out of life than rotting in a trailer.
That's the thing. Cities are full of people who left rural areas. The inverse is extremely rare. Plenty of people in cities know exactly what life is like in those rural "communities".
The only reason I'd even move to a rural area is to start a hippie commune. Even then I'd rather do an urban commute with a rural component I'd visit part time
Plenty of people in cities know exactly what life is like in those rural "communities".
I question this. I grew up in a rural area, moved to the city for a few years, and moved back to one of the "larger" towns in a rural area.
Usually while talking about my childhood with my friends in the city, they would seem surprised by some of it. Yeah, they knew the basics, as I did about the city, but actually living somewhere is a lot different than what media portrays.
I don't doubt your experience but the numbers don't lie on this one. There have been a small number of the urban population (I've not the numbers on how urban they are. If they're in the suburbs or actual cities) that moved to more rural areas since the start of COVID. The number is quickly slowing down and it was small enough to not make a big impact in any one area. If you grew up in a rural area, think about anyone you knew from a city. And then think about the kids who go off to college (colleges aren't real big in rural areas) and who never came back.
Oh, I didn't mean the moving part. I agree with that. It was the city people know everything there is to know about rural life I disagree with.
I agree with revelrous, it's more a city/rural split. Florida is "red" now, more a warm purple but gerrymandered. Cities are pretty progressive, country is redneck, exurbs are rich conservative northerners who moved down here (the influx that moved us from purple for real to red)
My husband tries to hate on California but we have family there who love it so much they think we should move there. Chicago he thinks is a great city, we have family there too. But again, we are city folk so even though he is conservative he sees way more variety of people and is, well, cosmopolitan I guess you would say? Traveled a lot, says people are just people, all over the world.
The villages is keeping FL red, as is driving away the LGBT people with persecution
It's funny because Florida is so queer. I grew up going to gay bars, we had the gay film festival, literally half my kids are queer In one way or another. Why in the world would the government want to alienate such a big subset of the population? It's insane.
If I ever run for governor though, my platform is Make Florida Freaky Again.
Most Fox News consumers, yes.
They are afraid of/mad at “others,” and for the grift to keep going the dummy R-voters have to keep on being afraid and mad.
It’s the only reason why this hasn’t stopped yet. Killing the propaganda network would be a huge huge step in turning things around
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