I have never received an inflation beating raise, not once in my life, and I'm 50 years old. The only way to get good raises is to job hop. And anyway, 3%CPI? Have they done any food shopping in the past year?
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In my 40's and pretty similar experience. Raises are always 3-5%, with several years where they didn't even meet that. Hell, I remember one year having manager take me out to lunch and explain to me that the company wasn't doing any raises that year. The following year I had a new job at ~20% higher salary. And companies wonder why workers have no loyalty anymore. In the end, the only thing that has kept my salary rising faster than inflation is to job hop every 3-5 years. I'd rather not. Hell, I like the company I'm at now and they talk a fantastic game about building a long term career. We'll see how that pans out come raise time.
I take any long-term pipe dreams with a grain of salt nowadays. I spent 3 years "just six more months" at a time because I believed the owner of the company. Never again.
Saw a store selling a gallon of milk for $7. Was an “upscale” grocery store, but come on. Half a load of bread from the bakery was $8. Where is the other half of my bread?! I walked out
They exclude food, fuel and some other things from CPI. The government made this change about a year ago. It's wrong and most of us know it.
This is easily verified to be false.
This is disinformation.
https://www.bls.gov/cpi/additional-resources/historical-changes.htm
There have been very few changes, and none in the last few years. And when they made changes last they were small changes that only make the score more accurate:
Changes to the CPI establishment frame (2019-2020)
•Replaced Telephone Point-of-Purchase Survey (TPOPS) as source of retail establishment frame with data from the Consumer Expenditure Surveys (CE)
•Eliminated redundancies and inefficiencies in survey operations and reduced household burden Use of Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages business registry to refine the location and address data from the CE
• Use of Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages business registry to refine the location and address data from the CE
“It’s wrong and most of use know it.” I don’t think most of anyone knows it. And the ones who do are misinformed, repeating false internet narratives without doing any sort of fact checking.
There’s been 13 revisions in over 100 years.
Look another one stating how the government keeps changing the formula to make CPI go down.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2023/01/23/supercore-inflation-excludes-food-energy-and-housing/
Yea, but keep lying to the people.
You are confusing yourself. That article sites the BLS website to explain the differences between core and super core indexes. Both are publicly available, and neither are new. The formula for either number hasn’t changed significantly in decades (1983 when housing price weight was changed).
Another article.
https://thehill.com/business/3856258-cpi-calculation-to-be-revised-for-january-price-data/
I really wish you ppl would stop the gaslighting. This is why things are getting worse.
Owners’ equivalent rent of residences (OER) has nothing to do with the headline CPI numbers. The article you’re referring to literally cites the BLS website, and talks about a separate number not covered by any headlines or indexes in this post.
Nice try.
Bullshit, why do you ppl lie for the government. Are you getting paid to gaslight ppl all over the world.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/24/technology/inflation-measure-cpi-accuracy.html
You obviously didn’t read your own article. It dismantles the argument that the calculation is vastly changed, and acknowledges a change in how housing prices are weighted in 1983 might change the equation by 1 point for some people looking to buy a home. Not in the “last two years,” as stated by the comment above.
And your article literally cites data from the BLS website so I guess you’re shilling for the government?
Yeah. While I do feel like the impacts of inflation are slowly slightly (maximum price gouging achieved), 3% CPI has to be some wildly-creative math.
Get back to me when we've corrected the last 30 years of wage stagnation too
I’ve worked 2 manufacturing jobs in the past 2 years, and know others that work at other factories. We have not received raises that track with inflation, ever. I know this is anecdotal, but lived experiences often differ to what stats are cited.
Some good news
Raises for lower-income workers were particularly strong in early 2023. Restaurants, hotels and similar businesses hired at a brisk pace to cater to customers eager for services that were limited initially in the Covid-19 pandemic. While leisure and hospitality employment gains have slowed in recent months, workers in the industry saw their hourly pay rise faster than overall wage growth and inflation.
Wages for manufacturing and business-services workers are also outpacing inflation. Pay gains have been narrower in the tech-heavy information sector, where several large companies have cut staff.
Where? My rent has gone up $200 for the third year in a row. Over 5 years my rent has gone up 33%, meanwhile my pay has only gone up 25%.
Renting is often more expensive monthly than owning a home. Obviously this differs by area, but particularly as you get out of the city, homes get downright inexpensive.
I don't think this is true at the moment (with interest rates) or in cities, as a rule. A 2-bedroom apartment rents for $3K but sells for $1M+ where I live in the Boston area, so a mortgage payment would be at least double our rent :(
I'm at the point where I very much want to own a home - emotionally - but it's hard to justify financially.
yep. my apartment is 2500 a month. but it would sell for almost a million bucks.
2500 gets me a 400K house at best, which is a tear-down.
speak for yourself. in my local market real estate prices have gone up 50% in 3 years. and rents have only gone up 20%
It's entirely dependent on housing stock supply.
In a lot of cities, new housing development is deliberately surpressed, which in turn causes rent to skyrocket. In other areas, where land is still cheap, its very often cheaper (in the long run, maybe 10-20 years) to just get a mortgage to buy or build a house because newer housing stock is still being put into the system to which helps regulate the max price landlords can get away with before people just start building their own homes or buying new one from developers.
CPI does not include housing costs
The CPI has been changed over and over to deliberately understate inflation. Hedonics and owners equivalent rent stand out particularly strongly
Yet comparisons of methodologies show little difference.
Right, they did it for fun. Not to keep COLA low, or any other perverse incentive the government has.
They published their reasons for methodology adjustments. But you've made up your mind regardless of the facts.
CPI doesn't include the data it includes now?
We should really stop calling inflation adjustment "raises"
Cool, I'll print this out and share it with my employer
:(
That's why in IT field workers don't trust unions and we just job hop every 2 years give or take
Correct me if I’m mistaken but if EVERYONE gets raises beating inflation, doesn’t that make inflation worse?
Been outpacing inflation for several months now.
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