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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 188 points 6 days ago

except it's a Samsung so it's about 6 months away from needing a $400 motherboard or other insanely stupid electronic component that is worth more than the machine itself.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 113 points 6 days ago

When I got this house, all my appliances were Samsung. It's been five years. None of my appliances are Samsung.

[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well it easy to just repair your own washing machine yours-..... Oh it's Samsung, never mind. Overly complex electronics and digital control made to not be fixable and break just after warrenty. But on the upside, it has ads and doesn't work without an app on your phone!

Remember the time when a washing machine actually was made to wash clothes, for over 20 years? Or a fridge, which was designed to keep your products cool, for over 20 years? Without a monthly subscription, no ads, no updates, no popups, no ai which doesn't work, no phone connectivity required, etc. And all for a reasonable price, as it wasn't an overly complex computer. 120 euros for a washing machine which lasts for over 20 years, or a 650 euros for one that lasts 2 years and 2 months.

We're not buying appliences that make our life easy anymore. We're just buying trinkets designed to make companies and billionaires as rich as possible.

[-] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

All appliances used to be really expensive, now only good ones are. Stop buying crap and they will last 20 years.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

The problem is that there are very few well built appliances anymore, even among the expensive options. Some catagories just have no option that's competently designed and manufactured at all, from any brand.

You are correct that adjusted for inflation/portion of yearly average income, appliances used to be proportionally much more expensive, though. Manufacturers could afford to build them to last back then.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago
[-] hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Speed Queen

[-] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago
[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

Bosch appliances are famous for designed failure and inability to fix. Their washers are designed to break. Your opinion is a decade out of date.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hm. Do they have a Canadian service network? Cause I'm a bit skeptical towards German engineering these days. We're runnung a pair of Whirlpools that have parts and repair people available for.

[-] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

Miele does for sure. Not sure about Bosch.

[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

Bad ones are also expensive. For what I've seen, the cheap ones are the non-smart basic function devices. They usually last longer and if they break they can be easily fixed with a screwdriver and a YouTube tutorial. You don't need a Rolls Royce, a Toyota Landcruiser works just fine.

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[-] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 days ago

My rule is if you’ve ever made a TV or cell phone I’ll NEVER buy your appliance.

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

the worst part is that said electronic component will have been the cheapest one to physically manufacture, but because it's the hardest to copy they can charge whatever the fuck they like

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

That's why you prepare a hallway with like 20 of these alcoves. When one machine breaks, you simply pump it full of cement and plaster it over. It just becomes part of the wall. It remains there, entombed forever, like some latter-day washing machine Pompeii. Or maybe you don't plaster over them at all. Maybe you proudly display them. "These are the washing machines of my ancestors..."

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[-] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 15 points 6 days ago

For us it was the $180 concrete counterbalance weight that broke, dented the front panel, and broke the drain tube clean out up front. Hunk of junk.

[-] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

My wife was a huge Samsung fan. When it came time to get a washer I found a ding and dent option at a habitat for humanity ReStore. It likes to get unbalanced but it's still kicking after 8 years. I didn't expect it to last this long. But I know for a fact the next time we get one my wife will not care if it's Samsung or not.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 54 points 6 days ago

Fun fact: Clothes washers actually do have concrete weights in them to help damper spin oscillations:

Source: The Secret Life of Machines

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago

I moved recently and had some small filing cabinets that needed to be moved downstairs (and subsequently back upstairs). I was amazed at how heavy the near-empty, cheap sheet metal cabinets were, until I saw the giant paver stones bolted to the inside back wall to give them support when the drawers are open.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

I guarantee the salespeople said the weight meant they were built well

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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Modern ranges/stoves do this also, and some of them even have the concrete blocks bolted to the outside where you can see them. Albeit on the back.

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[-] VonReposti@feddit.dk 7 points 6 days ago

Some higher end models have a cast iron weights instead.

[-] musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Some cheaper models have two little people from New Jersey in them.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

WHOAO....HEYAH.

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[-] FreeBeard@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Nobody mentioned yet how fucking loud this will be. Strong vibrations coupled to a resonating body like ** YOUR HOUSE** sounds like a bad experience.

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 35 points 6 days ago

Edger Allen Poe's the Cask of Fabric Softener

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago

Quote the Samsung, "Error: Door."

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[-] rem26_art@fedia.io 35 points 6 days ago

"No need to service it. All parts last the lifetime of the machine" (the lifetime is 6 months)

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

It won't move relative to the wall.

[-] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Do that in an US-American paper house and watch it crumble lol

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 13 points 6 days ago

How's your wife going to use it to jerk off now?

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

Could go either way I reckon, acoustically coupling the walls of your house to a big spinning drum

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

wife is once again dissappointed.

On today's episode of Extreme Built-In Appliances ...

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 12 points 6 days ago

They'll come out with flat washing machines next.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I thought we had those already.

[-] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 6 points 6 days ago

What are the issues by doing something similar? Let us say instead of concreate I have a custom bracket that will arrest any movement. What are the issues it can cause?

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 21 points 6 days ago

You'll likely kill the motor or drum elements. In essence, your washing machine is an unbalanced centrifuge that tries to release the energy differential by moving the entire thing.

If you restrict its movement, the whole load and the respective mechanical stress will fall on parts moving and holding the drum. They are not meant to hold that kind of load and will break quickly.

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago

Your house will blow up and explode

[-] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 6 points 6 days ago

No, it will implode into a singularity. You're thinking of a dryer.

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[-] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The forces that would normally just affect the washing machine and the floor it's on will now affect the bracketed surface. Depending on the type of construction the violent vibrations will start to decay that section of the building. Brick will eventually crack and crumble, wood may not break but it'll be louder. The problem is mainly that with this setup there's no extra dampener, so the best solution is to buy a washing machine with better dampening system. FWIW my machine suspends its drum with two shock absorbers on the bottom and two suspension springs at the top, and has a central motor instead of an offset one with a belt. It also has concrete counterweights and a digital load-balancing system. If you're having problems with your machine you should find one with similar features

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

I propose the most practical option possible:

Simply isolate the washing machine completely from the building. Levitate it entirely off the ground, suspended in the air via a massive toroidal superconducting electromagnet, 3 meters in diameter, cooled by liquid helium. (Which will need to be regularly topped off. It tends to slowly leak through solid walls.)

The noise would be greatly reduced. As the machine thrashes about, it will do little but disturb the air around it. Little noise will be generated, except from the sound of the machine's own parts acting against each other.

Though, if you really wanted to optimize this for this setup, a different design is in order? Perhaps a non-standard design would better handle internal vibrational damping? Have you considered calling local stores and asking if they have any spherical washing machines in stock?

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 6 days ago

Vibrations don't just vanish when they hit solid concrete.

Your entire wall will vibrate, which will distribute the sound through the house and make the machine seem much louder than it normally is. Potentially, this might eventually result in cracks in the concrete wall: concrete is very strong in compression, but has low tensile strength, low ability to resist pulling forces ... and every vibration is a quick succession of compression and tension.

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[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

Built-in washing machine.

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