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submitted 5 days ago by Delta_V@lemmy.world to c/space@mander.xyz

..."Once you have super-conducting technology available in space, you can then create very strong magnetic fields and you can use them for various use cases," he said. "You can accelerate things in space very fast or change the trajectory of a satellite completely without fuel."...

"When we go to space, we get hurt by radiation, and these superconducting magnets can create umbrellas of magnetic fields around the spacecraft to protect the interior," said Arshavsky. "So we can shield people in space from that radiation."...

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[-] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 27 points 5 days ago

Making a superconductor is easy. Keeping a superconductor is hard.

[-] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 8 points 5 days ago

Much like my erection.

[-] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 days ago
[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago

i mean, yes. You can make YCBO superconductors by just heating some powders to 1000°C.
Like okay you can't do it on the stove, but it's also perfectly achievable by anyone with a back yard.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Except right now, superconductors only work at very low temperatures, and keeping things at low temps in space requires energy.

[-] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 days ago

Energy is easy enough to get in space with some solar panels and a battery, while fuel has to be sent with the payload. Even if it's not good enough for constant function, being able to spin them up long enough for a course correction is a pretty big deal.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Right, but then it's not really "without fuel." It's hopefully less fuel, and if you can run it on solar panels, it would be without resupply, but nuclear power could also provide long-term functionality. As always, the most fuel is spent getting things into orbit.

For me, the exciting bit is the magnetic radiation shielding. If we're going to leave earth behind, radiation shielding is currently a significant missing piece of the puzzle.

[-] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

They're not claiming the launch won't use fuel, just manoeuvring in space, which still solves the problem of getting fuel for manoeuvring while in space. Fuelless launches are a separate issue that other people are working on.

[-] nanometer1625 7 points 5 days ago

Technically, it needs insulation and a way to radiate heat. I read a while back that the superconductors used in space are often wrapped in several concentric shells to avoid being exposed directly to the sun and other onboard heat sources.

[-] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago

this is for applying torque to the spacecraft, not generating thrust. these are just magnetorquers, which have been a thing for a while. the only thing new here is that they use superconducting magnets, which i assume just means they can more efficiently create magnetic fields. its cool but its not really a game changing development, more a refinement on an existing technology. science journalism has to make everything sexy for clicks though...

[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's true for older magnetorquers, because the Earth's magnetic field is smooth enough that the difference between field strength at the top and bottom of the satellite is insignificant.

With superconductors you can scale up the magnetic field strength enough to get a usable net linear force.

[-] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

wtf are you talking about... linear and angular momentum are always conserved. the only way to get thrust is to expend mass. a magnetorquer exchanges angular momentum with the earth via its magnetic field. it cant be used to exchange linear momentum.

[-] albbi@piefed.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Are we finally going to get flying cars and hover boards?

[-] icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No (and even if we did, you would never be able to afford one)

[-] nanometer1625 3 points 5 days ago

Is there a limit to the amount of thrust that these superconducting magnets could generate in Earth's magnetic field? I read a hypothesis that the UAPs that have been observed to accelerate without any propellent are using superconductors in this way.

[-] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago

A magnet that strong would be easily detected by human technology

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 days ago

Don't UFOs often come with a "my stuff started going haywire" type of thing? Are we monitoring the atmosphere for transient localized magnetic anomalies?

[-] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago

I'm pretty sure weather services and the military measure stuff like that. If UAPs were as common as the believers think, there would have been actual evidence by now.

[-] giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

it makes the most sense, right?

[-] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

This does not move anything in orbit at all, it's only for turning. It's better than using cold gas thrusters for turning, but this will not move you to a different point at all.

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