A Ford employee says he lost his job after being accused of stealing a $1.95 cookie, only for the company to later realize he’d actually paid for it.

60-year-old Kurt Kromm had worked at Ford’s Kentucky Truck Plant for 11 years, but told Shifting Gears he was fired after the company believed security footage showed him taking a cookie from the break room without paying.

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 321 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (21 children)

Who puts cookies in the break room and expects you to pay for it.

It's cookies.

They're cheap.

Treat your workers.

Treat your colleagues.

Edit: very curious to hear the mindset of the few down voters of this.

  • source
  • hideshow 21 child comments
  • [–] 112 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    Lolz. Public corporations don't care about your well being. If there is an ROI on any action, it's worth taking and if that means no cookies because it ensure the shareholders get a fraction of a percent return, then no cookies for you.

    I'm working hard to leave my current corpo. They're down to the "bring the dry pen back to get a new one" stage of bean counting. That's a sinking ship to disembark from ASAP.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 15 child comments
  • load more comments (6 replies)
  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago

    Gotta milk every last cent out of us. Honestly the absurdity and cruelty only make the revolution come that much faster and if they are cruel enough we won't even have any moral hangups about it (for those that would).

  • source
  • parent
  • load more comments (2 replies)
    [–] 198 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    They didn't fire him for stealing the cookie. They fired him because he's old and probably earning twice what a new hire who could do his job would earn. The cookie was just an excuse.

    Every employer, big and small, has a collection of petty rules on the books that are only there to be enforced against people they want to get rid of "justifiably" and not have to pay unemployment.

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • load more comments (4 replies)
    [–] 194 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    60-year-old

    That's why. I guess Ford won't have to pay him some retirement package.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (2 replies)
    [–] 125 points 3 months ago (14 children)

    Should sue for defamation and damages

  • source
  • hideshow 14 child comments
  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Wrongful termination for sure, idk about defamation. I think it'd be hard to argue being accused of stealing a cookie actually hurt your reputation in any meaningful way.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (3 replies)
    [–] 102 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You don't just fire a $200k worker over a $2 cookie without looking for a reason to fire them.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 84 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    Why are employees expected to pay for cookies in the break room?

    Oh right, capitalism. Human decency be damned.

  • source
  • hideshow 10 child comments
  • load more comments (10 replies)
    [–] 73 points 3 months ago (14 children)

    At my last job they have a policy of people who retire are allowed to cash out Extended Illness Bank (EIB) hours at full hourly wages if you are over a certain age and have a certain number of years with the organization. The bank is maxed max out at 400 hours.

    One day I was in HR working for a reporting meeting. An employee who was less than a month from hitting the age/tenure threshold was being fired for a miniscule reason.

  • source
  • hideshow 14 child comments
  • [–] 45 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    Yep. I remember having to temporarily sit at the desk of some department head to address a network problem, whose desk was covered in paperwork involving some poor custodian who was asking for a medically necessary limited period of light duty as a result of a work-related injury, and this director's handwritten notes all over it, with shit like "if she can't do the job she shouldn't be here, let's draw a line under this," etc. It was clear exactly what they were getting at; they ALL knew the law, hence the handwritten notes and vague language. The casual nature of it was revolting.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (5 replies)
    [–] 68 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    its not an accident, they often use this excuse to get rid of legacy employees in other industries so they dont have to pay them more down the line, like when they retire or they are set to get more in investments in thier retirements, or thier salary is too high or thier insurance is costing them too much, they just got caught with thier hand in the cookie jar.

    they are like testing the waters with the 60yo, then they can apply it to other employees. especially him being 60, likely will retire in 5ish years, ford likely knew that and trying to get rid of him now, but someone in managment made a mistake, and miscalculated when they should get rid of him.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago*

    they are like testing the waters with the 60yo, then they can apply it to other employees.

    If I had to guess, I'd say we're way past the "testing" stage and doing this at industrial scale. This just happened to be the kind of egregious implementation of policy that trickles into the news cycle.

    For every Kurt Kromm, I'll bet there's a dozen employees fired due parking tickets or misentered vacation or failure to meet some impossible milestone in they're performance plans. More traditional and acceptable routes for firings.

    This was just a particularly lazy, sloppy execution

  • source
  • parent
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 65 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    100% this is 'we want to fire this guy because he made somebody one or two or three levels above him on the totem pole look really foolish'.

    Its the same bullshit as 'oh you don't get your security deposit back because ... we decided you scratched something, somewhere'.

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 45 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    It wasn't about the cookie

  • source
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • load more comments (2 replies)
    [–] 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Why isnt there free cookies in the breakroom?

    Why are they nickle and diming employees for snacks that give them the energy to do their job well and full?

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

    Even if he did steal this cookie, imagine valueing your employees so little.

  • source
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 35 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Union didn’t help him at all

  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago

    Uhhh.... It didn't help him as much as it should have, but my understanding from watching a video about this yesterday is that he already got paid back for the time after he was fired because of the union. So, it did help him some.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 32 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    UAW is an awful organization that's basically a "good old boy"'s club. Most reps are just a revolving door of former execs from the Big 3 anyway who work with their buddies to keep workers at bay.

    Getting off topic but I'm all for increasing Union membership in this country, but think we also need to discuss the rot that's in the ones that do exist.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (3 replies)
    [–] 34 points 3 months ago (16 children)

    At one point in my life, I coveted and desired to own a Ford above all else.

    Today, I can proudly say I have never owned a Ford, and I will NEVER own a Ford. Ford has become an exceptionally shitty company in the past decade or more. For all the history they have, I hope/desire/wish they will cease to exist in the near future.

  • source
  • hideshow 16 child comments
  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    There always used to be a joke in the UK about Fords being cheap on the second-hand market. You could get parts easily, so they were cheap to maintain, as well. But you'd see the ads saying 50k miles, new clutch, new exhaust, new CVs, bearings, etc. because they fell apart all the time. This was back when Japanese cars were proving to the world how reliable cars could be. Nobody I knew wanted a Ford, though some people got them if they were really cheap.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (2 replies)
  • load more comments (13 replies)
    [–] 32 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    But the executives can get away with making decisions that kill innocent people to save a few bucks.

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • load more comments (4 replies)
    [–] 27 points 3 months ago

    The manufacturer later offered him his job back and agreed to provide back pay for the time he’d spent out of work, but he chose to take a new job elsewhere.

  • source
  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The snack shop at my place of employment charges $4.69 for a Tyson chicken patty sandwich. Ya know, the patties that cost $0.85 per patty if you buy a pack at the store. Tuna on wheat? $4.00.

    It does have a slice of American cheese on it though.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    Thats some fantastic labor law right there

  • source
  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)
    load more comments (3 replies)
    [–] 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Ford is really kicking ass lately. In a bad way

  • source
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • load more comments (5 replies)
    [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    What the fuck

  • source
  • load more comments
    view more: next ›