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[–] 210 points 3 months ago (22 children)

Oh no! It's... European centrist?! And a rogue Free Palestine with a steel chair from the corner!

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  • [–] 79 points 3 months ago* (20 children)

    These are a bit too left-leaning for European centrists. Especially the 32-hour-workweek, even in the most "socialist" European countries this is a position only taken by dedicated "leftist" parties.

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  • [–] 85 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    In France we have a 35 hours workweek, and our centrists fight that with all their might.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Is it? The average work week in the Netherlands is 30 hours. That is the current status quo, not even what the "left-leaning" parties propose for the future.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    If it's about the same as Germany, then the reason for that is that there are a lot of part time workers, who often don't get enough money to be able to live off it on their own (e.g. married people, single parents who also get government assistance to make up the difference). That's very different from declaring the full-time work week to be only 32 hours.

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    [–] 95 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The horror! Won't someone think of the rich who profit from each of these vital services?!

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    [–] 80 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    If you just give someone a Palestine for free, what incentive will they have to work?

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    [–] 66 points 3 months ago (19 children)

    The older generation is so selfish they don’t want the younger generations to get something “easier” than they think they had it. “I walked uphill both ways in the snow” kind of thinking. Most privileged generation.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    Good luck being distracted by age. That's almost as bad as red/blue state bullshit. Sure, the people in power in those states is making a difference, but my point is there's a huge mix of people in every state. And in the same way, there's plenty of old progressives and young fascists.

    Constantly putting this crap on older generations implies you're one of the ones hoping the problem will die off.

    It won't.

    And distracting you from realizing that is the big reason for the push for "boomers" to equal "evil". There's a lot of idiot evil boomers, but there's plenty of young idiot evil fascists.

    The problem ain't gonna die itself away. We must fight.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I've been hearing that the Republican Party will wither from attrition as they all die off for 50 fucking years. We should be free of them by now, but instead they've taken over everything.

    I always tell people to remember back to that first big protest in Chancellorville, when all those neo-Nazi fuckwits marched in with their tiki torches, chanting "Jews will not replace us". ALL those weenies were under 40 years old. Rush Limbaugh and all the other psychopathic propagandists have been great at recruiting and indoctrinating new psychopaths into their ranks, and replacing all the old psychopaths that finally got dragged to Hell.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Last night at dinner boomer maga: “why aren’t the kids drinking anymore?” Me: well we got like 10 jobs and have no time so i imagine they have like 20 jobs even less… “we used to go to work hungover”… oooooookay

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    [–] 58 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    My favorite activity for a minute now is to ask people the definitions and differences between socialism and communism. It's entertaining.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago

    o0o in a similar vein, i like to ask them if they are pro fascism or anti.. reminding them that they really only get to pick one.. and watch them squirm as their programming conflicts

    which is hilarious as they generally also couldnt define fascism if their life depended on it

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    [–] 56 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    Health care ? Stable economy ? You really want that ?

    You'll end up just like Boomers with fancy "pensions" and "cabins" and happy grandkids DO YOU REALLY want tha.... yeah that sounds pretty pretty pretty good comrade.

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  • [–] 56 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    What blows my mind is that basically all of these fit in with fiscal conservative ethos.

    • Healthcare would benefit the most from economy of scale, which is the bedrock of corporation above the mom and pop level.
    • Education is literally capital reinvestment for sustained growth.
    • Housing is a commodity like like any other.
    • 32 hour work weeks are scientifically proven to increase productivity and decrease Fraud, Waste, and Abuse.
    • Taxation is another instance of capital reinvestment for sustained growth. Hell, it's (demi-god of capitalism) Henry Ford's "pay the line workers enough to buy my products".
    • The Green New Deal is not quite as cut and dry, but there is plenty of both "leveling the playing field to promote free market competition" against fossil fuel subsidies AND capital reinvestment.

    Palestine opens a whole other can of billions of dollars of foreign government spending separate from the ethical concerns, which is less clear cut on market economics and would need to be an essay by itself. So I will just stick with the 6 out of 7 low hanging fruits for this argument, and mock the completely not fiscally conservating mess the Republican party has become.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago

    The conservatives abandoned ethos long ago in favor of being against everything the progressives are for.

    One of the bits that blew my mind was watching foreign politics and learning other countries have right wings further left than our own left. Fucking Overton windows.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Green New Deal is also incredibly sound economics and conservative ethos. Economically speaking, which is better: something you have to spend a bunch of time and effort mining for and then can only ever use it once or something you spend a bit more effort mining and manufacturing, but then can receive gains off your investment for decades? Gains that exceed your initial investment well before expected end of life.

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    [–] 50 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Bro didn't have an icon for Palestine

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  • [–] 48 points 3 months ago*

    Socialism!

    Ooohh. Say it again!

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  • [–] 45 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    If you see this and think these things are bad things to have in your country, you are seriously fucked in the head and I hope you die a horrible death from colon cancer.

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    [–] 41 points 3 months ago*

    HOW DARE THEY GIVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LITERALLY EVERYTHING THEY EVER WANTED!!!

    AAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

    😂😂😂😂😂😊😂😂😂😂😂

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  • [+] 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
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    [–] 39 points 3 months ago (21 children)

    This is what the boomers most fear. Telling, huh?

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago (19 children)

    I'm a boomer and want those things.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (16 children)

    My parents are boomers and they want these things. And most people in their circles are the same. So I really get annoyed when I see this sentiment online, especially on Lemmy where you’d think people would know better. A lot of MAGA support is coming from younger people. Why do you think that Kirk dickhead was at college campuses, not retirement homes. These are people who are not anti vax because they grew up with polio. They support unions because they have seen them work.

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    [–] 29 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Anybody has the video? I wanna know if this is real and if it is I wanna see them try to spin that the bad way.

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    [–] 28 points 3 months ago

    Clown world is the only place this could not be a joke. Like what else could they have on there? Free oral sex on request? Support for kittens?

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    It's like when AOC was gaining popularity so they showed her platform on Fox. Showing all these good things as "bad".

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    [–] 26 points 3 months ago

    Fox news is just an online church. Preaching all the hate, gloom & doom. No one is allowed to be happy or have nice things. Fear is the flavor of every day. What a sad, sad cult this is.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I find it funny that they couldn't find a pictogram for the last one.

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    [–] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Ah yes, thanks faux news for accidentally advertising socialism and making them look cool

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    [–] 22 points 3 months ago

    I like how the Free Palestine bit clearly wasn't part of whatever presentation they stole this from.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago

    When you're so racist and classist, that you've become afraid of "all".

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    This boogie-man makes perfect sense when viewed through the lens of zero-sum thinking. They literally view helping other people as being detrimental to their own position because it means that the people "beneath" them are now less far beneath. This makes their position feel less lofty because we've raised the floor of human suffering, thereby making them feel less advantaged and less high above that floor of human suffering by comparison.

    It's not even a meme to characterize them as saying, "the suffering is the point" when they support certain inherently evil consumerist practices. They literally think that way.

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    [–] 19 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Sounds good to me, what's the problem? 🥴

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    [–] 19 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe the graphics designers are insiders?

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    [–] 18 points 3 months ago (17 children)

    Toss in freeing Ukraine and stopping China's genocide of the Uyghurs and I know who I'm voting for!

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    [–] 18 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    oh no, basic universal rights!

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    [–] 16 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    This is a regular bit on FOX News. The list all the platform points of a Democratic official and play it as if it's offensive when they should be positive points and are, popular policies according to most polls.

    I've seen lists played this way on FOX for years now, including the original Green New Deal.

    I don't understand how this works, and am disquieted that it does. FOX is super confident in the thrall it has over it's viewership.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    It works because the average Fox News viewer:

    1. Is old, and already has Medicare, and doesn’t want it changed.
    2. Is retired and would see no benefit from a 32 hour work week
    3. is old, and sees environmental regulations as costs to them now with benefits in a future they won’t see
    4. Is old and retired and would see no benefit from free college
    5. is old and probably owns a house substantially paid off, and would see no benefit from a government housing program
    6. is a selfish asshole who doesn’t want others to enjoy these benefits, not even their own children
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