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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by CubitOom@infosec.pub to c/privacy@lemmy.world

The "KIDS Act" Is an Age Surveillance Bill, Take Action. Tell Congress to reject this age-gating bill

Within the next week, Congress is preparing to vote on the KIDS Act, a sprawling package of legislation that seeks to control Americans’ web browsing and private messaging. The package includes a revised version of the Kids Online Safety Act, or KOSA, combined with a collection of other internet bills, study bills, reporting requirements, and new regulations. Instead of debating any of these proposals on their merits, lawmakers are attempting to move them all at once under an ultra-expedited process. 

The package of cobbled-together bills is a mess, with different age-gating schemes for different services, using different standards. It’s a lot of complexity, and a lot of legal risk. Faced with that, many companies will conclude that the safest option is restrictive age-checking practices across their entire platforms.

Buried inside the KIDS Act are provisions that will push online services to verify all users’ ages, require government-directed moderation policies for online speech, and even create new rules about private and encrypted communications. While supporters continue to claim this bill protects minors online, its requirements come at the expense of privacy, free expression, and the ability of people of all ages to use the internet without revealing sensitive data.

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[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 45 points 3 weeks ago

Just out a device age range for fucks same, this is insane.

Build a whole industry of surveillance companies to solve “I was too lazy to enter my kids age restrictions”

[-] SarahFromOz@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yes it is stupid that laws and the internet are changed instead of parents using parental controls.

But this was never about protecting children in the first place.

When VPN doesn't work to get around age verification (because it's globally required) it will be time to get off the internet I think.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Lazy parents put iPads in kids' faces. Lazy parents also don't bother setting parental controls. Too many Spider-Man and Pregnant Elsa videos happened. Now lawmakers are using this as an excuse to get us to submit our papers to get online.

[-] whalebiologist@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I agree spiderman-elsa is degenerate, that parents are lazy, but I also think these authoritarian fucks would use any pretense to push their agenda and our struggle against them will never end.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago

Which is why I said they're using it as an excuse.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Spiderman pragent Elsa degeneracy is still tame compared to the degeneracy I saw on the internet on 1998 at age 12. I saw ladies pissing, a DIY clitorodectomy, a fella chop the tip of his finger off with a chisel, a guy stealing a human skull from the Paris catacombs and fucking the eye sockets, a human Skellington who got eaten by pihranas, and a Russian man being decapitated by Chechen lads, and that was just Tuesday.

[-] Spooge@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The same people that are pushing for this are the ones who "wouldn't get the jab because the 5G tracker chips in it". The government tracking people is good when they want it, but bad when it doesn't fit their narrative.

Buried inside the KIDS Act are provisions that will push online services to verify all users’ ages, require government-directed moderation policies for online speech, and even create new rules about private and encrypted communications.

This would change the internet as it currently stands. People love to be lazy and hand over their data, but if you make someone send a photo ID to sign up for Facebook, they simply won't have Facebook. People can't set up their own WiFi networks or TVs without help from their children, and now you are going to ask them to upload photos of their IDs? They won't do it.

[-] maturelemontree@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think you underestimate just how apathetic people are. I'm not hopeful that there'd be any change, you hand over data or get left behind.

[-] Spooge@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

You didn’t understand the second part of my comment. Apathy is the reason why ID uploads won’t work. People won’t do it.

[-] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

In the words of the great sage George Carlin: "Fuck the children!"

[-] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

'Not like that, Steve!'

[-] SarahFromOz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Um maybe dont use that particular quote.

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The US is about to become another censored country. Thanks, Fuhrer Trump.

[-] Beangut@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah we gotta keep the kids off the innernet so they don't fall victim to predators.. Unless they're billionaires.

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Goodbye Fediverse if this passes, because it'll surely kill that network. Goodbye FOSS too as that won't be able to comply the with web DRM that will surely be this law's enforcement mechanism.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 weeks ago

Skimming the bill, it seems at least one of the definitions in it requires that platforms, in order to be covered by it, do this:

(E) Uses the personal information of the user to advertise, market, or make content recommendations.

Fediverse instances usually don't do this, so wouldn't be covered at least by this definition, though I haven't yet read the bill in detail.

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 4 points 3 weeks ago

They'll still be blocked by web DRM if web DRM is this bill's enforcement mechanism. Google and Cloudflare already laid the foundation for that.

[-] molasses6469@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Why couldn't the Fediverse resist something like this? Doesn't decentralization help to fight against this?

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 weeks ago

Splintenet would destroy it, assuming this censorship stuff actually causes a splinternet.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 1 points 2 weeks ago

Someone will definitely make something that combines all the different nets into a usable thing again (like streamio but for the Internet).

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

You can probably use an instance outside of the US. But yeah, the internet will change.

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Better get used to living in NK, because the whole free world is turning into that. I just contacted my rep, but given the state I live in already age-gated porn sites and no doubt wants to lock down the general web too, it probably won't amount to much.

You can probably use an instance outside of the US.

  • Wouldn't those instances be blocked by the national firewall that's surely about to go up?
[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Much of what we hear about that place is pure, dystopian propaganda modeled off of Orwell’s work. It’s no surprise that the governments actually trying to create such living conditions are the UK and other Anglophone nations. Every year we descend further into hell.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

In order to protect children from problems their parents create by allowing them unfettered access, we will infantilize the entire population of the planet and ensure that no one can say or do anything that is not befitting Supply Side Jesus's interpretation of morality.

Glory to our supreme capitalist overlords.

I will enjoy dipping their eyeballs in marinara sauce by the end of this.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It is only for web browser, usenet and darknet is still fine, right ?

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 3 points 3 weeks ago

They're the next targets, if they're not also targeted in this very bill.

[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The government wants untraceable, anonymous user profiles they can control and use for espionage, etc., but also wish to track every user who accesses the web.

They’re destroying their own tools as a trade off to control the population. (They feel weak and are worried about uprisings.) Soon enough the internet will require your digital ID for every website. At which point you might as well just get rid of your PC and smartphone and forget about the web entirely.

If the tracking is no longer a background phenomena you can avoid if you’re diligent, but instead you’re carded each time you use the web, then it’s no longer a free information system worth using.

this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2026
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