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The finns loses in 1940 but managed to trick everyone that they are the good side, meanwhile the vietnamese and ACTUAL Badasses beat the crap out of the Statesian imperialist, but its the STATESIANS that is more glorified despite LOOSING the War.

Maybe the vietnamese are yellow, uncivilized, non-blonde hair, Non-blue eyes Savages. while finns are wholesome civilized against evil mongol hordes /s

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also that weird thing among Western leftists where they only glorify the failed attempts

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The term "leftist" is something I learned from the Internet, as neither the history books or the political education books in Vietnam use this term. As a result, I fail to discern Western Leftist from an average liberal, unless they talk like a Marxist-Leninist.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

That isn't an incorrect assessment, they are functionally liberals, just with left wing aesthetics. People who might say they care about socialist causes but then explicitly reject every successful socialist state for being "authoritarian." like any good liberal, they think that buzzwords are a substitute for theory.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The long shadow of christianity

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's not weird, failed revolutions don't change the status quo. Which is why western leftists love them. They can pretend to be morally superior while benefiting from the Imperial plunder. They seem more self aware than we give them credit for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shouldn't they be stanning the people who Finland executed in the interwar period instead of WW2 Finland then?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

“Well, ackshually, execution = criminal = bad”

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Also rabid anti-communism

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Edgy internet Nazis love lionizing losers because their main stan (the Nazis) were massive losers. It's the same strain of idiocy as Confederate lost causers and whatever you call people who pog out over Rhodesia.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe the vietnamese are yellow, uncivilized, non-blonde hair, Non-blue eyes Savages. while finns are wholesome civilized against evil mongol hordes /s

Funnily enough, plenty of Nazis think Finnish people are too Asiatic to be considered white, just ask Varg Vikernes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Finnish people weren't even white originally but Asian (look a some Uralic people), they look like that because over a millenium of mixing with Slavs and Norse. They were also nomadic or semi nomadic so in fact, they were the "Asian horde".

That is to say, if you look back enough, literally all of European people are also descended from asiatic hordes, indoeuropean migrations were a thing. So all this is bullshit anyway.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Do the Vietnamese have some form of warrior culture mythology? The cultural hegemony of white supremacist views is probably a significant factor. Vietnam has been really poorly represented under this hegemony. Most people only know of the country from US media portrayals that do not center any Vietnamese perspectives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Cause they're white people who took the fight to those damned Bolsheviks!

History is written by the victors, and until now the victors have been white imperialists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've never seen anyone glorify Finland on the English speaking Internet. What are they glorifying about? I see them talking about Vietnam war, either leftists talking about how Vietcong smoked American soldiers, or rightwingers cope about "not a military defeat".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

There's always been some of it around but after the Ukraine war it notched up a bit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US most of the Baltic State admiration is for Sweden, ironic since Akkeson is running and he’s practically a Proto-Fascist

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The true finns are the mask off version of the Sweden Democrats, why would they choose the non-fat version?

[–] HobbitFoot 1 points 1 year ago

In American media, Vietnam and its war with the USA gets a lot more attention than Finland's Winter War. The Vietnam War is also the war that gets depicted as being a worthless imperialist war where Americans weren't a positive force and pushed a part of its nation's youth to the meat grinder.

The story is typically told from the American side, but what can you expect from the side making the movies?