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[–] [email protected] 152 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This could have been prevented if there was a good toddler with a gun.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The toddlers need gun training. If every toddler had a gun, stuff like this wouldn't happen.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

The solution is obviously to try toddlers as adults.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Another opportunity to talk to your toddler about good trigger discipline.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Or if we just had mental health programs for toddlers, we wouldn't have any issues with giving toddlers guns!

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another responsible gun owner!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Sad thing is is that there are probably many responsible gun owners, but its the jackasses that get publicized and drawn into the public eye.

Though, that's how it should be. It just takes one reckless owner to ruin several people's lives. That's an incredibly low margin of error, and people should talk about it.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (31 children)

EVERYONE is a responsible gun owner until they aren’t.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are, mostly in fact. For some rough math, there are 333,287,557 people in the US, about 50% of which own guns for a rough 166,643,778.5 gun owners. There are 60,000 yearly gun deaths including suicides, accidents, and intentional firearm homicides, for a total of 0.036004944523026% of gun owners likely to be irresponsible leading to death in any given year.

Couple notes, this doesn't include illegally owned guns/gun owners in the number (166,643,778.5) of gun owners, because we can't have that number by the nature of it. Most gun crime excluding suicide comes from them though, and so the 60,000 does include them. This also doesn't include people only injured or non injurious irresponsibility or negligent discharge, as often this goes unreported and so far as I can find isn't tracked well likely due to difficulty. That surely does happen as well, like the idiots filming themselves pointing it at the camera (and their own stupid hand). But these figures can at least paint a picture that somewhere around .036% of gun owners/yr are in the "irresponsible" camp, +/- .002% for margin of error.

I do agree, it should be talked about, we can learn from others' mistakes and lessen the frequency. We should also talk about it when people use them correctly in self defense, or training, IDPA, etc, because that is a lot more frequent and we can learn from good examples as well.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Needs to be changed to negligent discharge.

There are no accidents, just negligence.

Unless there is hardware failure, but that's a different story

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry... you think letting a toddler get ahold of your loaded gun isn't child endangerment?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Since when did USA become so anti freedom?
The toddler is clearly part of a militia, to prevent government oppression.
So he has every right to carry and fire whatever weapon in whichever place and direction he chooses.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

that the 2-year-old boy took her Taurus 9mm firearm from her purse

Right, so the safety was off then, because there's no way that a two-year-old could release the safety on their own. The movies make it look like you just flick it with your finger but seriously that thing does not move without a reasonable around a force.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A Taurus 9mm likely has a trigger pull between 5 and 9 pounds and kiddo did that...

https://www.guns.com/news/reviews/taurus-g2c-best-seller

Of course mom could have modified it to reduce the trigger pull too...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

As a victim of a toddler pinch I have no doubt they can pull a trigger.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Many modern pistols don’t have safeties. Either way it shouldn’t have been loose in the purse and not in a holster.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ohio, the florida of the northeast.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

As an Ohioan, I've been calling it "Cold Florida" for years.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course it was in Waverly. That Walmart is always full of insane people who shouldn't have weapons, but you know they do. Used to pass through on my way to my hometown and refused to stop there after a few incidents with good old boys because I'm a gay dude who had very long hair back then.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure any of those things are unique to that particular Walmart.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I live on the other side of the country and this has been my experience with every Walmart I've ever visited.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand, but you've described greater than half of all Walmarts.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This sounds about right for a Taurus owner.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Imagine being able to narrow it down that much when the rest of us go "That sounds right for an American" 🙄

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a gun person. Is that the Karen gun or something?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Taurus, and this model in particular, is known as a cheap piece of shit probably purchased and carried by someone lacking intellect and sophistication... You know, the type who would have the thing sloshing around unattended in a purse, with no holster.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought it was about the Ford Taurus. Lol

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That boar population is outta control, huh?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

"Accidentally."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's a good thing that Toddler had a gun! Imagine if a gunman had decided to shoot up that Wal Mart! The Toddler could Protect itself!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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