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[–] 138 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Agree with this outside of those opposing genocide being labeled as antisemites.

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  • [–] 52 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Was going to say, the quote sounds great, but of course I had a feeling the context was probably saying... calling the specific government/individuals who are commiting a genocide out for what they are actually doing. Rather than hating people for what their race is.

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    [–] 78 points 3 months ago (19 children)

    Sadly he joined the GOP.

    While I may like the sentiment, his actions are contrary to it.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Perhaps have a look at what he achieved instead of the label he achieved it under. His policies were pretty far removed from what you would expect from a Republican.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Then maybe he shouldn't be registered with a party that's against all his values.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    He's a Republican because he fell for the Reagan bling, he's said multiple times he got in it for him. I think he never really understood what that actually meant, and he did side with leftist ideas more often than against, and he did do a bunch of things that are more leftist than he understands, but he still had some pretty entrenched ideas of what a Republican is that he never managed to question despite having reality shoved in his face, so he's still a Republican by religion and lack of reckoning of what that really does.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Decidedly have no love for the GOP, but he was a politician in a time where the GOP was immensely different from what it is today, and the focus of the party was not overt bigotry and absolutism. Iirc, he was also talked about as a bit of a black sheep during the Bush Jr.-era GOP politics, but I might be misremembering things based on my own impressions from that time.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    The GOP back then when Arnie joined was more socially progressive and actually fiscally conservative. This was the party that allowed more migrants in the 1980s, and courted Muslim voters in 2000 presidential election by tapping into the mostly immigrant Muslim's entrepreneurial spirit-- and it worked. I won't vote for any conservatives because I inherently disagree with them on economics and I am not religious, but 2000's GOP is the kind of conservative that I identify as conservative.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    "socially progressive and fiscally conservative" is and always has been a copout phrase used by people that will never, ever, support wide spread systemic change to better people's lives, but dont want to be yelled at for it. Its the "thoughts and prayers" group.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    Notice that everyone who claims to be socially progressive and fiscally conservative still always votes Republican. It's basically their way of saying "I don't personally want to kill all gay people, but would gladly vote for politicians who do if it means I might get a tax break."

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    [–] 64 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Whatever your views on him as an actor or his political affiliation, you should watch the original speech in its entirety, rather than keep this soundbite in and of itself and hijack its meaning. It's also worth noting this was recorded in early 2023, so a lot of things have changed since then.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsETTn7DehI

    I think it's a powerful message and well delivered. Something the hardline MAGA crowd definitely needed to heed. And all around the world, as more of these populist movements rise or have risen.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    as an actor

    Schwarzenegger may have had a very specific niche he fit within as an actor, but when he worked within that niche he was excellent. If you look at Conan the Barbarian, it should not have worked as a movie, and yet it absolutely does, and no small part of that is his acting. Dude can smolder stoically. Terminator, T2, Running Man, Total Recall, Predator, they're all excellent uses of his very specific type.

    Then jump ahead to True Lies and Last Action Hero, where he's arguably at his height of fame, and he makes basically a couple of parodies of his acting persona, during a time when action heroes were largely taken much more seriously than they are today, and he nails both of those roles, too.

    Sure, he's got a bad habit of trying to make movies he maybe shouldn't have, and yeah, he's always a huge muscly Austrian with a thick accent, but I think he might be the best Western action star who's ever lived.

    As a person or a politician... ehh... could be a lot worse.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago*

    Something the hardline MAGA crowd definitely needed to heed.

    Yeah, well, the people who need to hear it wont because of algos.

    That's what no leaders seem to get. Twitter or YouTube is shouting into the void.


    Not that I have a good solution for someone like him.

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  • [–] 45 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    The term "semite" has two definitions, one traditional and one modern. Palestinians are semitic according to both of them.

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    [–] 44 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    MAGA/GOP? Losers. Zionists? Losers.

    And yet they cause incomprehensible suffering. We must stop them now.

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    [–] 41 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    The issue is, if you care at all about how the Palestinian people are treated, you’re labeled an antisemite. That word is being used to shut down ANY discourse.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    While real antisemitism is also on the rise

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It sounds like victim blaming, but a lot of the rise of antisemitism is being fueled by the actions of the Israeli state itself. Over the course of the last few years the state has burned through 80 years of good will and hard work put in by groups devoted to fighting real antisemitism.

    A lot of the behaviour like flexing control over the media, and political systems that antisemitic groups have been falsely accusing them of have been made true through the acts of the Israeli far right government. Furthering the idea that these antisemitic groups have been correct the whole time. The worse thing is that the state is intentionally conflating the idea that the actions of Israel represent the intent of all Jewish people, labeling any criticism against the state antisemitic behavior. This only serves to validate the behaviour of real antisemitic actors, giving them cover to disguise their racism under a veil of righteous criticism.

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    [–] 40 points 3 months ago

    This is personal for him. IIRC his dad was a Nazi and during his childhood he remembered him being a sad angry man, never getting over the loss.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Then why are you a Republican?

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Because he immigrated to the US after hearing a speech from Reagan and promptly went from having almost nothing to starting his own business and becoming a multi-millionaire before he got into acting. He's what the Republican party used to advertise itself as. He is to the Republican Party what Worf is to the Klingon Empire.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    He forgot to say MAGA are losers didn't he?

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago

    Iirc, I think I remember this speech of his. It was about magas and telling them to go the fuck home, shut the fuck up, and grow up. Basically trying to Daddy them and tell them to stop acting like the losers they are.

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  • [–] 37 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Unfortunately he’s confusing antisemites with antizionists

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Given how much he reversed on after speaking with experts on other things when he was govenor, I think he could be convinced he isn't defending the right people if he talked to a 3rd party expert about it.

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    [–] 28 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Well alright could you please also forward that note to the genocidal child killers that are ranzig Gaza and Lebanon?

    I really don't want more antisemitism but that's not something I can control as Israel itself is currently the biggest driver of antisemitism in the world

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    [–] 22 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    So Israel is a loser then.

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    [–] 19 points 3 months ago*

    On his final day in office, California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger "announced in an executive order signed on December 31, 2010, that he had commuted Nunez's sentence from 16 years to seven years. Back-room dealings were apparent.".

    Just swinging through to say fuck Schwarzenegger.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    Anti-semitism is a bankrupt term. Its being weaponized by nazi-Israel against anyone who criticize Israel. We should rather use a plain term like judeophobia so that we are clear in our speech.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    he also endorsed orban before election. he can fuck himself.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    I dont know how true this is but i also heard his dad was a nazi(not all that uncommon in austria...) and he basically based his worldview on being a better person than him and helping people who nazis hurt. He also got a lot of shit and got called gay for bodybuilding by his dad and basically single handedly redeemed the sport so id say he was successful.

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