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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 76 points 23 hours ago

Sadly he joined the GOP.

While I may like the sentiment, his actions are contrary to it.

[-] dellish@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago

Perhaps have a look at what he achieved instead of the label he achieved it under. His policies were pretty far removed from what you would expect from a Republican.

[-] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 17 points 17 hours ago

Then maybe he shouldn't be registered with a party that's against all his values.

[-] Uruanna@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

He's a Republican because he fell for the Reagan bling, he's said multiple times he got in it for him. I think he never really understood what that actually meant, and he did side with leftist ideas more often than against, and he did do a bunch of things that are more leftist than he understands, but he still had some pretty entrenched ideas of what a Republican is that he never managed to question despite having reality shoved in his face, so he's still a Republican by religion and lack of reckoning of what that really does.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

Imagine this, though: Imagine the above comment was made by a conservative, upset at AOC, a deeply progressive politician, for joining the Democratic Party, a group that supports Israel and tends to work quietly against universal healthcare.

It’s sometimes poor logic, but people do successfully cherry pick reasons to feel the same about the Democrats - fans of progressives especially.

[-] weaselsrippedmyflesh@piefed.social 15 points 18 hours ago

Decidedly have no love for the GOP, but he was a politician in a time where the GOP was immensely different from what it is today, and the focus of the party was not overt bigotry and absolutism. Iirc, he was also talked about as a bit of a black sheep during the Bush Jr.-era GOP politics, but I might be misremembering things based on my own impressions from that time.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago

The GOP in 2016. "We can't have Hillary as President. The world will laugh at us!"

The GOP in 2016. "Who cares what anyone thinks of us?? USA! USA!! USA!!!"

[-] rafoix@lemmy.zip 35 points 22 hours ago

The GOP glorifies personal responsibility while making sure that individuals without wealth have little to no power.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

The GOP back then when Arnie joined was more socially progressive and actually fiscally conservative. This was the party that allowed more migrants in the 1980s, and courted Muslim voters in 2000 presidential election by tapping into the mostly immigrant Muslim's entrepreneurial spirit-- and it worked. I won't vote for any conservatives because I inherently disagree with them on economics and I am not religious, but 2000's GOP is the kind of conservative that I identify as conservative.

[-] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 16 points 17 hours ago

"socially progressive and fiscally conservative" is and always has been a copout phrase used by people that will never, ever, support wide spread systemic change to better people's lives, but dont want to be yelled at for it. Its the "thoughts and prayers" group.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 13 hours ago

Notice that everyone who claims to be socially progressive and fiscally conservative still always votes Republican. It's basically their way of saying "I don't personally want to kill all gay people, but would gladly vote for politicians who do if it means I might get a tax break."

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

copout phrase used by people that will never, ever, support wide spread systemic change to better people's lives

Well they are called conservatives for a reason. Because they value "conserving" whatever it is.

[-] BossDj@piefed.social 1 points 13 hours ago

He's referring to people who claim to be "socially progressive and economically conservative" because those two concepts are diametrically opposed

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

Because those who are "socially progressive and economically conservative" are operating from the classical liberal sense of personal freedom and freedom from government control on the market. Liberalism and capitalism are progressive ideas when they first came out, as these ideas were opposing the aristocratic hierarchy and government control of economy to turn profit (mercantilism). Now, with aristocracy pretty much gone, personal liberty is practically non-questionable, and free market is widely adopted, these are given and hence became "conservative" in the modern sense.

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