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Shutting down a piracy site (thelemmy.club)
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Shutting down a piracy site

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[–] 73 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

The Italian government is strange because it goes only against pirated football TV streaming. They completely ignore all the other forms of piracy, except for the nautical one

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  • [–] 41 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    false. they allow high seas piracy in the Mediterranean. a nation has been kidnapping civilians in international waters, torturing them, and no European nation gives a fuck.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Holy fuck. Can I get a source? Because damn man, if that's real then I'm about to look at the UN a little differently

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    They're talking about the Global Sumud Flotilla, a group that regularly attempts to break Israel's blockade and deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza, and is intercepted by Israel every time. Israel tortures and humiliates the activists before sending most of them back to their respective home countries. The most recent one had the sister of Ireland's president on it and the Israeli terrorist Itamar Ben-Gvir recorded the abuse of the activists and posted the video on social media celebrating it and european countries still haven't done anything about it.

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    • [–] 62 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    This hasn't been true for a while. Unless you are constantly looking for only the most mainstream stuff, huge swathes of material is lost with every shutdown, especially now that the costs of servers and storage have quadrupled.

    The idea of piracy being invincible is a myth from a different internet era along with old patterns like "platforms spring up and die constantly".

    Yeah, in the 2000s that was true - but the main platforms we have today have been around for 20 years and have a stranglehold on users. The internet logic of the aughts no longer holds.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Kinda ironic that russian and iranian sites are the ones most likely to survive current purges. No wonder they're almost impossible to find when using most western search engines

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    • [–] 35 points 4 months ago

    Given recent events, all cloud-based LLMs should have been included here. In the history of humanity, there has never been a more profitable piracy operation.

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    [–] 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    In ukraine, piracy is technically illegal, but nobody cares and its not enforced. In 2022 after full scale invasion, ukraine banned most popular russian piracy websites as a "sources of propaganda". Absolutely nothing has been done to foreign and especially local services.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago

    in south africa piracy is also technically illegal

    but I only heard of one case of someone being prosecuted

    someone was filesharing a locally produced film and the director sued

    that was over a decade ago, and there might have been other cases where people were prosecuted for digital piracy since

    but uh... someone I know... has been rawdogging torrents for years, no VPN, no fancy router settings or whatever

    zero complaints from Hollywood nor ISPs

    I doubt the police service will bother doing anything about it anytime soon

    "Okay, today we could either monitor the TCP traffic of some guy downloading terabytes of copyrighted adult films... or we could go stop a gang shootout and do some state brutality to innocent citizens on the way back..."

    "...last one to the squad car has to use that old R4 with the fucked barrel!"

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    • [–] 24 points 4 months ago* (12 children)

    If it weren’t for piracy, the Internet would not exist

    Well, it would, but it was still very much to look like the ARPANET, because, otherwise, it would have no reason to exist

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I always thought porn was the catalyst.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    That’s what the internet is for. Porn.

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    [–] 21 points 4 months ago

    qbitorrent's built in search, my dearest

    also yandex search, from russia, with love

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    [–] 18 points 4 months ago (19 children)

    Usenet working fine still. Generally faster speeds than torrenting and upload requirements.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Where would someone start if they wanted to get into usenet?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    Unfortunately, or fortunately, not a whole lot of places discuss Usenet to not draw too much attention to it. I know it's reddit, but /r/usenet is a really good resource both for providers and indexers as well as for setting things up for personal use. Some guides exist on YouTube too.

    If you're looking for media, look into what an Arr stack is and how to set that up for a media server you're running, for example. Although not exactly necessary, that's what many people use and set up.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    I've been to r/usenet and it is incomprehensible. I now know I am supposed to download an app. I'm sorry.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Have you had a look at the wiki? It's quite comprehensive and should set you up nicely with everything you need to know. Other than that, do check out YouTube tutorials. For example:

    https://youtu.be/-PQtE6Nb0Cw https://youtu.be/QfpZcXXGpVA https://youtu.be/4IGKF-K_Rgc

    Feel free to DM me too if you need to know something. I'm still only starting out with Usenet myself, but I do know some stuff and know where/whom to ask.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (9 children)

    Thanks, I will look at all that, however

    It has been my experience that when someone understands something, they are capable of explaining it to someone else. For example if you asked me how to make tea, I wouldn't give you a youtube video and tell you I can't explain. I'd tell you that you've got to get a cup, boiling water, tea leaves, one of those little metal balls with holes in. Do you know what I'm saying? I'm having a really hard time comprehending the tools utilized by typical usenet users because I do not understand how it works. When I ask for clarity I am pointed back to the same confusing materials. There has to be at least one person who knows what usenet is and can explain it to another person, without telling them to get the explanation elsewhere.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

    Okay, I get what you mean.

    So basically Usenet in its raw form is used for distribution of information and it is/was used as a sort of forum. Think proto-reddit: bulletin boards with threads. It can be used to transmit and share data also, however, which is what we want to do here.

    The boon of Usenet compared to torrents is that you have a bunch of servers hosted by providers that have all the data on their servers, so you don't run the risk of exposing your IP or any other identifying information, in addition to your connection being encrypted by default. Additionally, you don't download from a bunch of seeding users but from a single server, so connections are more stable and download speeds are better too.

    To access Usenet, there are two main constituents you need to setup or know: a provider, ie. the host that allows you to access Usenet in the first place and that stores the data on their own servers, as well as at least one indexer, ie. a way to search and download the data. The good thing is that Usenet is decentralised, so you can use whatever provider and indexer that suits you and you will get access to Usenet. There are some differences between them based on the backbones the providers use (period of retention of data, server locations, takedown types - DMCA or NTD and how often that happens etc.), but they all work in the same basic way. I've personally not delved that deep into Usenet, so someone else can likely tell you better what backbones mean and why they should matter to you - they haven't for me up until now.

    Usually, Usenet is used in conjunction with so-called Arr-Stacks - a collection of individual Arr-programs that allow you to manage and download different types of media: Sonarr for shows, Radarr for movies, Lidarr for music as well as a program that manages their downloads, like NZBGet or Sabnzbd, stuff like that. These can be run on a single regular machine as is but most automate them and set them up on a server. That way, you can add a show via Sonarr, have it downloaded automatically via preset filters, and have it be available with your media playback program of your choosing - like Jellyfin or Plex - without any further input of yours.

    All of this comes at a cost - unfortunately and literally - since you usually subscribe to these individual servers. However, compared to your average streaming service, it comes out to way cheaper. Most indexers have regular sales where you can snag deals like 50€/year, sometimes even cheaper. Plus, since you pay for access, you guarantee that people make sure that things work and are secure for the most part.

    An example setup could look like this:

    • Newsdemon as your provider
    • NZBGeek, Drunkenslug or Ninja Central as your indexers (most of these have instructions or manuals on how to use Usenet too; some restrict account creation to invites only, so creating an account can be tricky sometimes. you shouldn't run into issues creating an account with Geek, tho - if you only want to have one indexer, this is usually the one to get)
    • Sabnzbd to download data
    • Sonarr, Radarr, Lidarr, Prowlarr (a program that combines all your Arr programs in one and let's you monitor them from one place) to get whatever media you're looking for
    • Jellyfin for playback of your media

    This is a really basic breakdown, and I'm sure there's a bunch missing from it, but this should give you a basic idea of what you want to do, what it is, how to set things up. Let me know if this helps and if you have any questions.

    I implore you to have a look at a guide or two I mentioned before. These do a better job of explaining things.

    Edit: https://www.usenetradar.com/usenet-providers-vs-usenet-indexers-whats-the-difference/ this explains the difference between providers and indexers a little better and also gives some recommendations

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Hey, this is way more detailed and this does help me understand, or at least it gives me a start and a little bit more context. It still sounds really complicated and I still don't get it but I guess this is a very technical thing that I've got to do a lot of reading to understand. But based on some of the comments, I don't think I'm actually smart enough to do this. Sorry, I'm just going to move along.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    hey I know what you mean and I'll reply to this in case someone comes along, as I'm interested too. I have the whole -arr stack with jellyfin configred but have been only using torrents (both public and private trackers)

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    [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    Person plays Wack A Mole game

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    [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    My favortie bit is when they announce it all proud of themselves, it has the same energy as a dog with a stick.

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    [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    FBI took down rojadirecta, now there's a 100 sites called that

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    [–] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I may as well just ask here, I would love to have a digital copy of a specific book, but I'm struggling to find it on Annas or Zlib. It's very academic but also quite new. I do not have access through the university and I'm not finding it on scihub yet either. Are there like, places where people can request academic titles or something? You can dm me if you want!

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    For academics journals, supposedly you can just ask the author for a copy, with a decent sucess rate. That's probably significantly less likely to work for a whole book.

    Being a new book, it could be a while before it becomes "available". Someone has to be both interested in the topic enough to buy the book, and willing to upoad it somewhere. I'd say this could be your chance to contribute to the high seas, but academic books are expensive.

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    • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

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    [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I thought this was SBA for a sec

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