naa. mine was at 32. my wife of 7 years, she was 41, had just died. i was alone in a house. came into money. paid off house. heard father in law tell me dont be a hermit, we love you. so i dated later that year. it was a mistake. obviously. but i wasnt alone. problem was when i “woke” i realized this person was truly using me and my vulnerability. moved on from that asap of course!
i just met someone who lost a spouse and boy... they were in a bad spot. but really really had convinced themselves they were not and that they were legit into me and should be dating and in a new relationship.
despite all their behavior being obviously that they were not into me. They were just clearly distraught/lonely and trying to fill a void, and while they were nice it was just so boring/life sucking to be around a person who was clearly just constantly living only in their memories even though they were 36.
No. I objectively missing my teenager and 20s dating. It was vastly superior to my 30s/40s dating.
and the reasons the relationships ended in those years was much normal/sane/healthy than the ones I encounter as an adult.
That's basically the point.
The men are saying "She's out of my league".
The women, 10+ years later, realize that they could have done a lot better -- she was out of his league.
Mine was late 20's with folks +/-2 years; I got a lot of folks wanting a father figure, or wanting a provider. The level of possessive crazy was also just off the chart.
Different strokes for different folks.
As someone who teaches 18/19 year olds (and overhears snatches of their lives), trust me, they're dumber than you remember being. It's not worth it; their priorities and yours DO NOT align.
I'm in my 40s and I've spent the past decade+ dodging ladies who want a daddy, even though they are my own age.
I never encountered any of this in my 10s/20s, people just wanted a normal partnership/friendship type of relationship. I miss it so much. I'd kill to meet a girl like my LTR in my mid/late twenties... but part of why we broke up is she basically went from being a independent and successful to demanding I pay her bills for her because she shouldn't have to pay bills because she is a girl...
I'm embarrassed about who my wife dated when she was 19. She tells these stories and all I can think is why didn't you dump me?
"Dont you get it? I love you because youre not that [context - rich/handsome/strong/popular/whatever] kind of guy"
Best not to pull at that thread. Only misery and confusion is at the end
I think it's pretty simple. Just because there are better people than you around, it doesn't mean she's able to pull them
I think for most men it is also the lowest of our dating standards. Everyone was just so dumb.
I think you've missed that's she's referring to men in their 30s dating 19 year olds
Maybe what OP meant was 19 was the loest of the man's dating standards, reguardless of the man's age.
I have seen an 18 old say he dated a 40 year old woman and apparently, he had a good time
Bro was 18, he would have a good time with a blender mate.
That's because 40 yo women are fucking awesome
No shit. But it was weird that she was dating someone that young.
Yeah its really young, but women can be underage sex pests too. I was just commenting on your friend having a good time, not that the age diff is appropriate
It was her biggest mistake not mine!
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As a woman person I can confirm my worst choices were when I was still young and developing. I wasn’t 19, but 20.
My choices didn't get much better, but thats why I eventually stopped dating entirely. I’m a shit judge of mates, and choose the worst for me (yay trauma!!) so I just don't anymore, it’s so much easier. I’m tired of trying to grow and being brought back down by shitty men. Much rather bring myself down.
However of all the bad, that age brought me the worst. He turned out to be a convicted felon rapist (not of me. happened after he stalked me for 2 years which was itself after he moved 1300 miles to be close to me when I left him and moved home), which I discovered through court access years later. I dodged that bullet, for sure. I mean it grazed me, but didn’t hit. Sorry to the lady behind me. :(
I'm 40, I couldn't fathom the effort required to date anyone under the age of 25
i'm 40 and I have lost all interest in dating anyone of any age... because the return on investment of my time/energy just never happens. It just feels like I'm gambling and hoping I'll get a jackpot, but all I'm doing is throwing away money and time that would be better invested in other things.
and when I made the choice to stop prioritizing dating/relationships/friends... my life vastly improved and it does feel like I hit the jackpot. and now I just end up meeting people who are still addicting to gambling and looking for me to be their 'get out of depression/debt/misery' jackpot.
The energy required is more a reflection of their extrovertedness, not young age
I'm in my mid 40s and my hard limit is 30. I'm thinking of raising that to 35 after a few bad relationships.
age has nothing to do with it.
someone who was immature and selfish at 30, is going to be worse at 40. people dont grow out of who they are, they just become more of what they are.
As a 33 year old, I went on a date with a 22 year old and yeah I just couldn't. I felt like I was babysitting. I can date a guy 20 years older but no one younger than me
I know these are just general limits nothing concrete but I just imagined ya rejecting a guy cuz he was born one picosecond after you.
Standards are standards.
no, they are arbitrary bullshit you tell yourself to make you feel like you have control or give you ready made excuses to keep making the same mistakes, over and over and over, rather than trying something different that might make you genuinely happy.
someone's age, or height, or amount of income/wealth isn't going to make you happy and fulfilled. but you tell yourself it will because it feels like it's something you can control. of course, the irony being the other person could just lie about those things...
Yup, shortly before I hit 20 I got into a spectacularly bad idea of a relationship with a 37 year old woman.
My advice to a friend was “If he’s so mature, why aren’t all the mature women lining up to date him?”
At 19, I don’t think the advice stuck
Yeah, this argument fails to address how men get to experience relationships. One man could be your perfect partner but he simply doesn't put himself in positions to meet/date new people.
I know its easy to assume men get propositioned the same way women do but that's simply not true.
I’m a man.
I have had limited relationships in my life.
I still don’t think that older men acting predatory to young women who don’t have the same life experience as them is cool or valid.
This has little to do with the scarce dating scene for incels, and more to do with men who focus on young women because women their age know they are skeezy.
those older men and those younger women both know what they are doing. they really do, but they will pretend they don't because plausible deniability.
and they don't care what anyone else thinks about it. they are just seeking fantasy fulfillment, like the rest of us. their fantasies are just different.
Ah, my B. Yeah, had an ex of mine date a 17 yo and it made me sick on the stomach.
Women only line up for rock stars mate
And baristas.
asked my wife about this, she told me to fuck off and that it she still can't talk to her mother about that.
Which is weird because I was the person she dated when she was 19
Considering the kinds of men who tend to seek out much younger women, it's less "funny" and more "very concerning".

I dated my wife when she was 19 and so was I. As I was a dick then, this all tracks.
(I'm also a dick now, but I was a dick then too #mitchHedberg)
Did you used to do drugs?
Can confirm, I was awkward and embarrassing as a 19-yr old. I'm sorry to all my ex-girlfriends back then.
Granted, most of them dated me because I had a "bad boy" look and they were disappointed when they found out I was actually a quiet, introverted nerd. I was almost always the dumpee in my relationships.
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