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Can't you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs

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[–] 254 points 3 months ago (13 children)

It's easy to lose track of time with these tools, he told Business Insider. Soon enough, the girls' practice has ended, and the parents flood into the changing room. He joins them — with his laptop ajar, so that the AI agent can keep running.

"I have to put it up on a shelf," he said. "I'm untying my girls' skates while looking back like: Is it done?"

I just feel bad for these poor kids. You can't leave your goddamn Claude at home while you take your kids to the rink?

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  • [–] 74 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    When your boss ranks you based on the number of tokens you burn, there's no choice.

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  • [–] 55 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Ohoho, I know exactly how to burn a silly amount of tokens if I want to, which is why that metric is absolutely garbage - arguably worse than ranking developer performance by SLOC committed.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    If your metric is usage, it is incredibly easy to game, just send agents on wild goose chases all day long and never accept the results.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Part of the scoring at my company is how many generated lines of code you accept.

    Going back to the beginning of the year, I think I’m up to 6

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    [–] 110 points 3 months ago (17 children)

    People who can't figure out their power settings are shipping software. We're so fucked.

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    [–] 101 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Utterly pointless thread. Drivel. Change your power settings so that you can close the screen and have the machine "do nothing".

    Is this the level of content that is deemed worthy these days? Literally a non-story.

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    [–] 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 47 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Anyone with half a working brain in computer tech would know that, if you really need something to be kept on, but checked regularly, it becomes a fucking server that you connect to using different equipment. But that's too high tech for vibe-whatevers.

    "I think people think I'm whatever the equivalent of an iPad kid is for a middle-aged woman," one AI user said.

    Ackshually, we think you're an absolute fucking idiot.

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    [–] 42 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    This sounds like a form of addiction.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It is. I don't know if you do any development or simply write code as a hobby but you get a sort of dopamine hit when something you're working on actually works. like a bug or something that's been dogging you for days and suddenly you figure it out. it feels good. I can't remember the quote but Linus Torvald said something similar. it's a good feeling.

    Now imagine you get that constantly, consistently, again and again because you strictly use an AI agent. that's what these tech bros are getting. The problem is unlike actual devs they're getting that hit because it essentially "works on my machine" as really that's all the AI turns out. Something that surface level functions. So they're addicted to it. "oh man that was so fast and easy, lets build something else!" over and over again.

    The problem then becomes they'll run out of ideas or things to build and will naturally have to start trying to maintain what the AI built utilizing the same AI. Annnnnd if you've had any experience with these agents you know "that's where the fun starts" those dopamine hits are going to vanish very quickly. Now these people are "chasing the dragon" so to speak. AI doesn't know it was the one that built the thing. I've seen it first hand with my clients vibe coders when I've asked them to go back into something that was built and have the AI start fixing bugs that I've found in my review. the vibe coder panics, it doesn't understand what the agent is telling them, the agent believes the vibe coder built this thing. suddenly it's not fun anymore. suddenly it's not churning out semi-working results. suddenly things are breaking.

    This is the one aspect NONE of these companies or tech bros or vibe coders like to talk about it. Haven't you wondered why you rarely read stories of them sending their AI agents back into the thing its built to scale it or fix something? it never turns out well.

    So it is an addiction. And they're all collectively chasing the dragon. But eventually they stop getting their hits and will crash out.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    If these yahoos come back to hire people like me who were dismissed like so much garbage, they are going to find we processed our loss and moved on after a year of self reflection and accepatance.

    They will either pay us through the nose to convince us to help, or piss off.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    "Can’t you just disable sleep on close? " You really think they have technical competence for such?

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    [–] 35 points 3 months ago

    dumbass who refuses to learn does dumbass shit that takes seconds to fix. sounds about right.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I guarantee this article was written in conjunction with the comms team at OpenAI. Just more propaganda to try to convince people that AI is popular and generate FOMO.

    AI has important uses, but for capitalists its only use is to make them more money at your expense.

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    [–] 34 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    How do so many tech people not know about the power settings that can let the laptop run 100% even with the lid closed and on battery power?

    Like, how stupid are they? Has AI really atrophied their tech skills that much?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    A guy here shared a story about this AI guy his company hired, that was pretty clueless when it comes to basic tasks about his job. When he had to do the same thing a week later, he was still as clueless. Anyway, that made me think that AI people might have trouble learning things, because they just let a data center hallucinate an answer. I have the same thing when i use a navigation system, i don't really learn the way i go, i just follow an indicator.

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    [–] 33 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Wow, that was quick to have vibe "coders" not understanding how a operating system works.

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    [–] 31 points 3 months ago*

    The 39-year-old head of product at Raven.AI is a [Claude Code and OpenAI Codex power user. He also has two daughters, ages 12 and 10, who love to ice skate. So, when he takes them to their weekly skating practices, he sits outside the rink and codes with AI.

    It's easy to lose track of time with these tools, he told Business Insider. Soon enough, the girls' practice has ended, and the parents flood into the changing room. He joins them — with his laptop ajar, so that the AI agent can keep running.

    Sure pal, your work is more important than your kids!

    USA makes the world more difficult by pushing people to work more hours and more hours and even more hours, that is turning to a normal thing, which affects the rest of the world bad. Yesterday was AI pushed all over the world, today is war going worldwide. God belss USA and it's capitalist heads!

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    What really worries me about this article is this very dystopian idea that you're supposed to be "working" 24/7, no breaks ever.
    Even when you're out with your kids, why are you present in the moment instead of working? Open your laptop, go work.

    Wasn't all the marketing abour the "AI Future" talking about getting things done faster?
    When did that turn into "Work 24/7 so you don't waste your hourly token limit"? WTF?

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    [–] 27 points 3 months ago

    This shit reads like an Onion article. Good god.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    So many comments about the power settings thing, but this isn't about working effectively and efficiently.

    You can take AI out of this article and it would be just as sad, but it wouldn't get the clicks.

    This article is either helping push, or documenting the push, that if YOU are a higher tier of worker bee that wants to prove your superior worth to your bound legal entity, AND you want to virtue signal having your head on straight to all the lazy selfish people around you actually being present in the moment, then YOU need ShinyTechBroProduct!

    Ohhh all the cool parents are into ShinyTechBroProduct! All the other lame asses who PaId AtTeNtiOn To tHeiR KiDs aren't going to be the next Elon Jobs now are they!

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    [–] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Figures they don't know how to keep their laptops awake while the lid is closed lmao

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    [–] 26 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Can’t you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs

    They'd have to know how to use a computer to know that...

    And if they knew how to use a computer, they wouldn't be using AI to do their job.

    A big thing no one is talking about, is how each worker's goal here isn't to build a fully functioning thing, it's to make something "good enough" that it gets off your desk and is no longer your problem. It doesn't matter if the "creator" knows how it works or even if it works. Just enough to get a rubber stamp from your manager, then they move on to a new one.

    Since most "AI coders" will just keep typing "try again" till it works, eventually they'll get something that "works", we won't fully realize the damage for a while

    But pretty soon shit is going to start breaking all over and no one will know how to fix it besides typing into an AI "try again". No corp or government will pay humans to start over with something maintainable...

    And this is the most boring way possible we get to War Hammer 40k

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    [–] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    You're giving them too much credit. They're afraid their chatbot will suffocate if they close those lid all the way.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    just ssh home for god sakes

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    [–] 18 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Close the lid, buddy. You gave your only good ideas to a stranger and they made you obsolete.

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    [–] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Actual link to article: https://www.businessinsider.com/coders-keep-laptops-open-in-public-ai-agent-2026-5
    Redirect links are tracking links and should be banned imo.

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    [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Just disable the lid switch in software.

    I've always done this. I dont like it suspending when its closed.

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    [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    This was one of the cringiest articles I have ever read.

    There is no way this happened lmao.

    I lost it at “sorry, I’m using Claude”.

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    [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    Jesus, These people have no critical thinking skills.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    I gotta hide this article. His punchable face on my feed is insufferable.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    Imagine leaving skate practice and your father cannot stop his AI gooning to pay attention to you

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    Oh bro your laptop was open, I closed it so it wouldn’t eat up all your battery.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Can't you just run the agent remotely? 🤔

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    Tech guys too stupid to config lid closed settings

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Tmux/screen foreign concepts

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    [–] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)
    caffeinate -d
    

    closes laptop lid

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