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From their perspective, we're killing animals that don't need to be killed, to fill a preference we have for flavour. And they're not even wrong.
They're allowed to be angry. If it were easier to be vegan or vegetarian, I probably would be, and the only way that's going to happen is if people keep making noise and pushing for change. Which is what they're doing.
I'm now vegetarian and I have to say I have a lot of respect for your use of empathy to understand their position. Personally as someone who's been on both sides over my life that I think we get wayyyy more shit than we dish out. It makes some of us resentful being frankly bullied at times as the minority. People are very defensive of their habits, and that's fine. I'm not so aggressive and understand people change on their own time.
Animal nutrition is complete and highly bioavailable. Flavour is the body signalling this.
I think that their anger is just towards factory farms and ahem ahem become an anticapitailist not a herbivore
every single food source we have right now kills some sort of animal
and its not a flavor peference, animals and animal products form a nutritious part of a good diet and if we establish ethical farming, itll be okay
if we establish ethical farming then you'd have to change your eating habits anyway because meat will only be available to select few. at the moment we're producing animal products at such a large scale only because we're doing so without any regard for animal wellbeing
I dont eat a lot of meat anyways, I doubt anyone I know is chowing down on chicken nuggets every day too im totally onboard with meat being a dish thats served sometimes, not everyday
Anyone who is passionate about what they see as a moral cause will be insufferable to at least a few people. Passionate Linux and FOSS advocates are insufferable in the eyes of WIndows fans, for example.
It's not just vegans, it's just how human minds work.
When people are angry about injustices, they usually need a space where they can vent that anger with people who understand the sentiment behind the outburst and won't react back with stuff like "why so hateful" or "not all men" or "I actually love animals, especially with BBQ-sauce lololol" or "well schtatistically some races are just more prone to violence". Ugh.
Within these communities people can ventilate their emotions, and then go into the world (and witness the injustices) better regulated and not bring that explosive energy to people who may not deserve it or may not be able to hear it without misunderstanding it.
If you're not able to hear that type of rage without taking it personally or being upset or offended, I suggest those are not the communities for you. Not every community is. Let these groups have places for their rage, and be thankful they don't have keep that energy with them when interacting with the rest of the world.
Because people who care about injustices are firmly against the meaningless and cruel exploitation of animals, which is also a giant net negative for humanity since it's so incredibly inefficient (in terms of the energy you have to put into an animal to get a fraction of it back in meat/eggs/milk etc.) and (thus) a major contributer to global warming...
so you are actually not against meat just against factory farms?
and since keeping the cattle alive is so expensive, what do we do with them?
It's because self-righteousness is addictive and they need a fix.
I suspect you may be referring in part to my drunk meme from yesterday. For what it's worth, I don't hate anyone. I'm truly sorry our priorities differ. I just don't think there's an ethical way to kill someone who's done nothing to you, who doesn't want to die.
Murder is reprehensible. Thankfully, killing an animal isn't murder.
to be honest, most animals do not feel pain or understand most things like the average human adult does
and for food, its killing animals for a purpose, for nourishment, food, etc and to maintain the population and food chain
if we just stopped eating or artificially ending the life of any animals, populations would explode
and factory farms are extremely unethical and disgusting and we should stick to ethical free range farms
Why are people on the internet so insufferable?
There's fewer other communities to drown out any particular com than what you find on other sites. From what I've seen they carry the same energy as on other platforms.
You can always block them and move on if that's more your speed.
As someone who eats very little meat myself, I must say I've never managed to figure out that need for hating on people who do.
Well, I do understand it for what it is: a lazy and very cheap way to get the illusion of being somewhat better than 'the enemy', since it's a quasi religious war they're raising, whomever that 'enemy' might be as this trend toward hate is certainly not exclusive to vegans. But I cannot understand how it's possible for so many people to not realize what they're doing by playing that cheap game, what type of society they're actively contributing to build. Which is the real sad thing.
But hey, at least it's quite easy to block the most invasive specimens, and to filter out those annoying words they so much like to (ab)use.
Not enough protein
Because they are a religion, doing religious things. Their main goal isn't to stop harm to animals, but rather, to gain a sense of self worth by taking an unassailable moral position.
Hence, the people who make them angriest aren't the people who hate them - but the people who ignore them.
i never got the "it's a religion" dunk
like, it's a system of ethics. is this like the weird inverse of religious people saying you can't have morals without religion? atheists (presumably) saying you have to be a religion to have morals? surely you don't actually think this in any other context
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