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[–] 165 points 5 months ago (14 children)

I hire people where I work. Nothing fancy, just pest control, but I don't give a fuck. If you're licensed and seem decent as a human I'll give it a go. Worst case scenario is you suck, in which case you're fired pretty quickly on your own merit and I hire someone else. There are so many smaller companies out there in nearly every industry and they're ran by normal people with normal fucked up lives like most of us.

I've been fortunate to end up where I am and what I do but all my employees have fierce loyalty to me simply for being normal and treating them like maybe they're normal too and I hate seeing things like this because even these big corporate jobs are still being ran by people going home and having normal human problems. I don't understand why so many jobs have entry barriers that exclude shit like, "shit happens, sorry for being poor?"

Hope that makes sense. I'm rambling but I also had a shitty day with work and came home and drank. So fuck judgement.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    I have had to do a decent amount of hiring over the years for my own corner the corporate meat grinder. I personally don't care about a gap unless the gap is too big. A big gap allows for a lot of rust to build, so it becomes a bit of a calculation of how much rust needs to get knocked off and if it's fine for this position if it takes longer to get productive. If they're still pretty sharp then the gap is no issue, and if they're really rusty then that can be a problem depending.

    I interviewed a guy not long ago with a 3-year gap. No fault of his own, the economy sucks, so I didn't hold it against him. But despite knowing there was a technical interview coming up and knowing what skills we were looking for, the dude didn't put any effort into studying before my interview and he bombed pretty darn hard. Which is a shame because on paper he would've been an amazing candidate otherwise.

    Anyways all of that is to say that sometimes a gap brings other stuff too, so a gap to me is a sign to look for that other stuff.

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    [–] 112 points 5 months ago* (62 children)

    My answers to "Would you explain this gap in your resume?":

    1. Relevancy: "I only included relevant experience on the copy of my resume that you received." Hiking experience isn't relevant. Couch experience isn't relevant. Time spent as the forgotten pawn in the machinations of capitalism isn't relevant.
    2. Privacy: "I am not required to disclose medical information, and will not be discussing this matter any further."
    3. Fuck 'em: "No."
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  • [–] 70 points 5 months ago (56 children)

    No2 will make any interviewer exclude you as they don't want to hire a "lemon"

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  • [–] 59 points 5 months ago (54 children)

    Lemon is right...but not because they have medical problems. I'm left as hell but I'd get so annoyed if an interview candidate snapped back like that. I'd think "this person is going to escalate any minor inconvenience"

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (35 children)

    Lemon is right…but not because they have medical problems.

    It's because they have boundaries.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago*

    Another good one is to mention there being health issues in the family that necessitated you take time to help them with.

    Only a very nosy employer will question that further. If they give you grief for helping your loved ones in such a situation, they probably aren't worth working for

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    [–] 102 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    "I'm sorry, I can't talk about that. I signed an NDA."

    You can even create your own NDA to sign so it won't be a lie, if you care about that sort of thing.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago

    This is the best answer by far.

    Second best is "independent researcher." Make up the metrics. You produced numerous 20,000 word reports for a small group of peers? Great, I have also barfed up a wall of text at reddit.

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    [–] 97 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    "I had to provide end of life care to a close relative" doesn't get followed up by a lot of questions.

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    [–] 66 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    Employers like you to be desperate, so demonstrating that you can afford (whether through finances, friends, or foraging) to not work for a long stretch of time indicates that you won’t be negotiating with them from a position of dependency.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago

    It also suggests you might be willing to walk away from an incompatible work situation, whether due to workplace toxicity or your own outside priorities, which can be scary to the person you'll be reporting to.

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    [–] 64 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    If you do call it a "sabbatical"

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    [–] 50 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Some recruiters are not so great at judging people. Instead they come up with rules and red flags to justify their choice, or worse, get inspiration from other recruiters on LinkedIn.

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    What's more, job interviews are poor predictors of job performance, so even those who are experienced with judging people in higher context settings are not so great at judging people.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    I've been working in transportation and logistics first as a forklift operator, and now work as a local truck driver for nearly 15 years.

    As much as I can find the job a little overwhelming at times, I appreciate that every interview I've had I just show up not looking like I fell out of a dumpster and let my actual skill determine whether I'm hired or not. The time spent on a forklift showing them my skills, or a drive test behind the wheel is my interview.

    In 15 years, I've never been fired, left every job for something better, and never been turned down a position once in this current career path.

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  • [+] 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 37 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I’ve successfully labeled a period of “being laid off and playing a lot of video games until my bank account got to the area I didn’t like it to be” as a sabbatical.

    ymmv though

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    [–] 36 points 5 months ago

    I have a "mental health break" line in my resume for a 4 month hiatus. I don't know if it's a flex or not, but it's honest about what it is. At some point, a potential employer asked about it with some stern reservation, which allowed me to avoid a toxic workplace culture. Win win.

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  • [–] 35 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I have a small consultancy with several staff.

    Couldn't care less about a gap on someone's resume.

    I wouldn't ask but if someone told me they'd taken a year off to get stoned every day and watch judge judy that's not a deal breaker.

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    so far, most haven't cared. there was one recruiter really caught up on it, but that call had at least 3 major red flags, so I wasn't too worried. I think next time I'll ask them why they haven't taken one themselves?

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Oh yeah sir, that was my year as a porn star, you should have asked your wife about that

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    [–] 32 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    If you have enough financial security to be able to not work for a year, then the company may not want to hire you. Ideally it needs you to depend on it for everything, because this ensures you'll be a well-behaved slave for an extended period of time.

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    [–] 30 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    "some of your other, lesser applicants needed to 'work' to 'pay bills'. me, I'm a leader, I don't work for anyone. I inspire, I drive those beneath me to further productivity, raise profit margins, and fire those I don't like just shy of the one-year probation deadline. I don't need this company, this company needs me."

    dramatic pause

    "$250k, 6 months paid vacation, and a company car. Actually, you seem like a good guy, I'll take just 5 months and 3 weeks instead, just for you."

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago

    You see a lot of people who hire want individuals who live to work: workaholics. Those are the kinds of people you can get the most value from.

    They don't care that these people exploit themselves and hurt their families in the process. These are the ones they want; therefore, those are the kinds of people we have to masquerade as.

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    [–] 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    "I won the lotto and had the funds to not do shit for 3 years."

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    [–] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    If it is possible within your field, just say you've been freelancing.

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    [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    I was specifically called back to be asked about this. It felt so weird because in my country this is not a common question

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    They do. It could mean you were unable to find a job or hiding where you worked because you didn't do a good job

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