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[–] 185 points 4 months ago (3 children)

"But how about I just summarize it for you instead.. poorly and with a few lies added in?"

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  • [–] 79 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Also very lengthy all the time. It can't really summarise without rambling. It's in no way succinct and too chatty. Verbose, you might say. Garrulous even. Loquacious, if you prefer. Needs to pipe down. Can't rein it in. Doesn't shut the fuck up.

    Let's dig into that.

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  • [+] 44 points 4 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    That’s the biggest problem in my opinion.

    no, the biggest problem is they are stealing someone else's work and making money with it, depriving the original author reward for their work.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago*

    I mean, LLMs are quite literally random word generators with weighted input. The one thing they do best is generate random strings of words according to the rule set defined within the model.

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  • [–] 73 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    My wife works at a library. People constantly come in asking to use the library fax machine, because Google's AI says they have one.

    They don't have one. Their website says they don't have one. But LLMs have determined it's plausible for libraries to have a fax machine, so Google tells people that they have one.

    You'd be surprised at the number of people who can't accept that people working at the library know more about the library than Google.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago

    I've had this experience myself; I'm an American living in the Netherlands and sometimes just don't know the name for the thing I need nor where to buy one. LLM bots are fine for the translation part, but they will make wild assumptions like telling me I can buy a kitchen strainer at the hardware store or food spices at a place called Kruidvat which translates to spice-bucket basically but is actually most like CVS without the pharmacy and does not sell any food besides some candy and chips.

    It's hilarious how quickly these bots can swing from super useful to actually harmful to trust.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    She never told them to use AI to locate and operate the fax machine?

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    [–] 58 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    It’s crazy to me how far we’ve gotten away from sanity. How long until Google starts fucking with summaries and inserting corporate opinions because a website contains content capitalism doesn’t align with? Like a website about anti-Zionism for example.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I'd be surprised if this isn't already happening or at the very least being tested on a smaller scale.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Oh yeah, it is definitely heavily biased already. Just google anything controversial and you'll see it to some degree.

    "Is ICE doing illegal operations" -> "Allegations..." Anything about the strait of hormuz -> straight up no summary whatsoever lmao

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    How long? Brother, controlling the narrative is the entire point of why AIs are being shoved down your throat

    Wow the masses with their Mechanical Turk, then pull the strings behind the scenes whenever you need to tip the scale in your favor. Drive engagement with your product? Sus out new innovations that could threaten your business model? Manufacture consent for your international apartheid resource extraction project? Stifle populist grassroots political movements at home?

    You already know it’s true because you laugh about Grok every time it truth-dunks on Elon. We’re all collectively like “wow he can’t even control it enough to share his warped PR version of reality” which means we fucking know why these things exist: to gaslight the human race to the will of the capitalist ruling class

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  • [–] 43 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    And the next generation of AI gets trained on the AI summaries so it loses all contact with reality.

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    [–] 39 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    How about I summarise it? That way you don't have to deal with a cookie popup, a news letter popup, a signin with google popup, a request to send notifications to your browser popup, a back button that doesnt take you back to your previous page, and ads between every other paragraph.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    This, and newspaper writing style which endlessly beats around the bush, actually are the reasons for the mainstream accepting AI summaries. AI summaries only work because the Internet is a hellscape of intentionally bad UX with site-owners being hostile towards their users.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    Real newspaper writing style doesn't beat around the bush.

    SEO-optimization writing style does beat around the bush, because they have to try to "organically" mention all the keywords that might bring someone to the page. They also need to make it longer so there are more places to insert ads.

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    [–] 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    while it's not great, a ton of websites did this to themselves by turning every 1 paragraph piece of information into a 5 page listicle with ads splattered all over the place. I don't think AI search stuff would be nearly as popular if websites didn't make their content impossible to view.

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    [–] 25 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Worst is when is uses phrases like “widely accepted” for questions I ask that are open-ended. Also Gemini completely makes up stuff when it comes to configuring settings in DAW and Davinci Resolve in my experience.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Google has already patented a method to use AI to fully rewrite and redesign your website if its algorithms decide it's not engaging enough.

    Google Just Patented The End Of Your Website - https://www.forbes.com/sites/joetoscano1/2026/03/06/google-just-patented-the-end-of-your-website/

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    [–] 22 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Just inside that door is a Home Alone level of ad boobytraps you have to endure before the shop owner smashes you in the shins with an email newsletter appeal. Only then can you actually shop for a bit before a pop-up ad spider falls on you from the rafters.

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    [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    It’s sadly been like that since before they implemented AI

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Summarize it for you Summarize it for you incorrectly.

    There. Fixed it.

    Also, not to toot my own horn here, but I made a video this week about alternatives to google search if anyone's interested.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago*

    Hell, even before the AI summsary, the "at a glance" short blurb shown of the page on a Google search generally had enough of the information I was looking for that I almost never had to click into the whole page.

    The AI summary conflating contradictory info into a single cohesive looking response makes it more likely that I will view the cited source to see what it actually said vs what the shittastic Gemini agent cobbled together.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    When the collapse of Stack Overflow happens because of this shit, say goodbye forever to researching solutions to your coding difficulties.

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    [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Can I recommend you an egg AI-summary-free search engine in this trying time? https://www.ecosia.org/

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