I’ve said this before but the main reason I dislike lemmy.world more than any of the other lib instances isn’t even because of their general political views, it’s how controlling they try to be over the rest of the fediverse. You cannot just lifeboat to here from Reddit one day and then try to take over the entire thing.
I know if I, for whatever reason, decided to start my own instance and try to become the main face of the fediverse that it wouldn’t go over well.
It's stuff like that that makes me think the instance is run by actual feds. Their weird obsession with controlling all of Lemmy and trying to create a narrative about the "bad parts" of Lemmy so no one visits those places and learns about opinions beyond the western status quo is exactly what the US state department would want.
I once joked that they were the United States of the fediverse lol
Piefed was created to further that obsession w control; to remove dependency on lemmy developers.
Even have mods dedicated to the usa dem party lines
settler mentality
...And you’ll end up with like 3 federated users left which is basically my /all feed now
For some, this would be cause for introspection. For reactionaries, it's just an unfortunate side effect of having to block all of the 'wrong' people.
Everywhere I go smells like dogshit. I really need to work out a large list of people to block.
The memes of production community bans you if they find out you're a ML lmao
I got banned for "voting while tankie," lmao
Found out that mod thinks piefed is perfectly fine but the ml slur filter is a step too far...
Cognitive dissonance is common there.
I got banned as a troll for pointing out their mods love of attacking left
Neither hexbear nor lemmygrad are even federated with .world. I joined .ml because it was federated with both but was not sure I'd miss out on useful tech communities from the largest instance (.world). Hardly see anything worth engaging with there anyway, I think it has actually gotten worse.
.world preemptively defederated from Hexbear when the instance was about to move into the main lemmy fork
preemptively defederated
"as a last resort", of course
they're blocking quokk.au now? damn just one more instance and we have a hexagonal six
Lemmy.world is going through an interesting evolutionary process. It's generally the first one people join, and then they realize it stinks (for different reasons), so they leave. Over time this filters their user base to become more and more reddity as only the most reddity users stay behind, like an online social experiment to see what reddit island would have looked like.
What is truly incredible is how many people on Hexbear were saying exactly this would happen due to their policies. Truly a shocking turn of events.
In a short word, yes.
Reddit was once good enough to join, but is now bad enough to leave. Could be from the IPO, API scandal, or other period. Thus, we have Reddit’s more ideological crowd, but not the ones who are interested enough in the structure of Lemmy.
Lemmy.world provides a generalist, non-committed community that they believe will replicate “earlier” Reddit, though the nature of federation means the people with more niche interests already joined a different server.
Lemmy.world attracts, therefore, terminally online radlibs with no specific interests.
~2 years ago (looks like a deleted post, found the comment by searching for it)
I'm sure others have said similar even earlier than I, just remembered this being something I also predicted.
You know, I never really thought about it, but that "no specific interests" thing is really what is so offputting about a lot of redditors. They are only interested in the social capital that social media upvotes gives and don't express an opinion or share an experience for fun, but so they can get more upvotes. Their obnoxiousness is a byproduct of their unpleasant and empty existence, not the cause of it.
Yep! It's not that they are formless, but they are formed in a neutral way embodying whatever is culturally dominant. Humanity is a social animal, and Lemmy.world as a subsection is for those that specifically love the flavor "general, non-descript."
One hundred percent. I was on Reddit for a decade and had a curated sub list I aligned with and participated in. When the API changes happened and the app I used shut down, there was no way I was going to download the official app just to see ads and suggested/sponsored content. I took one look at .world and saw that the most redditiest redditors were also flocking there. So I joined Lemmygrad and was extremely happy with my choice.
The funny thing is that I still need to get on Reddit from time to time, and it’s really normie now. Sure it’s lib as ever, but the culture is much, much more mainstream than even a few years ago. That was probably Reddit’s goal, but I think it’s funny that they essentially orchestrated an exodus all their most insufferable users to .world. Going to .world is like a time machine to 2013 r/all.
Me going to .ml when I saw them talking about russian people.
That's funny, considering some of the most prominent posters on quokk.au are radlibs that lie about communists, and cape for Nazis by ignoring pograms and lynchings to suit their narrative. You'd think that would be right up the anti-communist's alley.
I mean world hated them before due to how anti genocide they are. So not at all surprising they'd now be cutting them off
I was surprised to see that one on the list; most of the time I go it's full of libs talking points.
I had a talk about waves of internet culture with my nephew a few years ago. He said, “yeah, remember back in 2017 when meme culture was just a bunch of gore and shock content?” And I told him, “I was seeing a lot of shock content in like 2011. I think it’s more about your algorithm, where you’re hanging out, and how you relate to those spaces, rather than any broader trends about how much gore there is at any given time”. And I could see his wheels turn for a minute until he just said, “well shit”
Maybe someone needs to have a similar conversation with OP if their internet experience is so toxic
Cool cool, nice to see us dbzer0 anarchists are finally being rolled in with the rest of y'all. Once all of liberal Lemmy has self-isolated, recentralized, and started monetizing; maybe then we can finally have some leftist unity "in exile?"
I've seen .world getting rolled in with us lol.
obviously they are terrible, they still are on lemmy!
dbzer0 as an instance and Hexbear seem to have been getting on better over the last year or so, gradually!
Probably because the anarchists there stayed while the radlib “anarchists” moved to some other platform.
Welcome to the revolution, fellow Tankie.
It started a while ago, due to being too "tolerant to tankies". Sorry, only left unity possible is with liberals of course. Vote
Aren't they also rolling in blahaj?
Blahaj is pretty anti-communist, it's usually just transphobia and homophobia that causes reactionaries to group them in with us.
Well that and the person saying block anything identity politics
EVERYWHERE I go smells like SHIT!
Must be those DAMN TANKIES that keep POOPING in MY pants 
I wish these racist, ziontist loving, Republican-raised liberals would just admit they're Trump supporters and shut the fuck up already about their plans for total Fediverse conquest
We get it, you don't want to see a single opinion that would offend your rich daddy's sensibilities which your trust-fund ass pretends not to hold
These motherfuckers actually believe an ideology based on State Department press releases is somehow normal or remotely sane, nothing is more tiresome and revolting than fascists with an identity crisis
Honestly there were always arguments on the internet, but far and away the most peaceful time in my memory was the time of tens of thousands of independent forums and/or websites that profilerated up to ~2010.
You could just like a thing, blindly wander into a community about it, and spend your days, weeks, years talking to similar, friendly people in personable ways. If you got into arguments, mods just banned you for causing ruckus in their quiet corner of the internet. I find the nameless 'talking to the masses' that all social media does is the issue.
Humans thrive on making interpersonal bonds, and to speak to the same person twice online is borderline impossible today. Hexbear probably straddles the middle-upper limit of an enjoyable community size in that you will repeatedly interact with the same people over months or even years. But once you lose that person-person accountability, you inevitably become a pile of ragebait and nothing else.
That's why IRL community groups inevitably have an upper limit before they federate into subgroups - a sea of voices talking over each other doesn't really achieve much of an enjoyable atmosphere, and overall lends itself to sensationalism.
Surely nothing toxic about telling people to block multiple whole communities because of identity politics or whatever. The lack of self-awareness holy shit
but it seems to have gotten so much worse over the last few years.
laughs in Zoey Quinn
Just get your news from actual news services. The comment section for most news/politics posts here is worse than an entire garbage dump on fire
The instances they block are the only instances where occasionally, "actual news sources" exist.
"How do you create an echo chamber? People are slightly rude to be when I support genocide."
How to reduce toxicity on Lemmy? Idk, stop recruiting on 
I am kind of torn on this issue. On the one hand, yes if you block all political content, instances you might disagree with, then you're going to end up with a very quiet feed.
The Fedi could really use some more casual content. Our media discussions tend to be short and not very deep, but we also don't have a pro-consumerist hype culture. We dont have enough concentration of people from any cities to have vibrant locals communities (not even huge cities like LA or NYC, London, Berlin). Even the tech/programmer communities are pretty anemic in content and discussion.
(I guess there's a fair amount of queer and trans stuff as well, that's good but is in a way the exception that proves the rule.)
Obviously I don't want hype-driven consumer culture, but it does often feel like the only thing we do a lot of around here is politics and memes about politics.
Very agreed. People don't really make "I did a thing" posts, which is sad because that's usually the best content. Unfortunately, due to the nature of leftist living in a fascist society, it's not entirely safe to reveal things like living location, interests, posting photos, etc.
"I keep decentralizing things to get rid of the people with their annoying 'political opinions', but they keep having them! Clearly I need to block the entire world from my personal view."
Absolutely unhinged take.
For posting all the anonymous reactionary bullshit that you can't post anywhere else.
Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.
Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.
Rule 3: No sectarianism.
Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome
Rule 5: No bigotry of any kind, including ironic bigotry.
Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.
Rule 7: Do not individually target federated instances' admins or moderators.