I think if anyone is going to use a nuclear weapon, it'll be israel.

The US can pull out, president man-baby can write a fanfiction about himself winning the war, and all his thugs can turn their attention to some other debacle, but israel will always be within range of Iranian missiles.

Without US support (and many Americans, even some of the really evil ones, have had enough of israel at this point) it could end up facing an existential threat. They've shown again and again that they have absolutely no regard for human life, and they don't even seem to consider blowback most of the time. I believe israel going "Samson option" is by far the most likely nuclear scenario.

Iran at this point is likely going to be forced to make a sprint for the bomb. What else are they supposed to do, just accept that Israel will periodically bomb them every few months and kill thousands of people each time? The only path Iran has to security is nukes.

At the same time, it seems now that Israel and the US really don't have a way of preventing Iran from getting the bomb. The US, let alone Israel, doesn't even have a military large enough to occupy Iran. And any attempted occupation of Iran would be Iraq times ten. Wave after wave of suicide bombers and IEDs.

Israel and the the US have put Iran in the position where it really needs to push for nukes. At the same time, Israel and the US really don't have any good way to prevent Iran from finishing their weapons program. They already have highly enriched uranium, and it's a giant country with countless places to hide centrifuges and bomb-making equipment. The US and Israel are really good at hacking communications and locating potential targets, but I imagine the Iranian regime is quickly moving entirely to analog methods of communication. Literally bringing out the typewriters. I really don't see how the US and Israel can really stop the Iranians from getting the bomb.

No way...except one. If Iran really wants to push for nukes, the only way to really stop them would be to use nukes against them. You might not be able to find a bomb program divided and scattered in a hundred locations across Tehran, but that doesn't matter if you simply make Tehran cease existing in its entirety.

That's what has me so worried about this. The US and Israel are simultaneously forcing Iran to rush for the bomb, while at the same time, the US and Israel have no real conventional method to prevent the Iranians from finishing their nukes.

I’ve been thinking they’ll use the nukes since they started this thing.

All they know is escalation, and eventually when they run out of other ideas that one is a pretty big escalation to try out.

You must be a well adjusted person and don't follow his speeches or interviews a lot.

If you're as brain rotted as me you'll learn his "jokes" or "I'm not saying buts" are him testing responses to actual things he wants to do.

He has been talking about "the N word" (Nuclear) for awhile. He wants to be a president that is remembered. He doesn't view history as a person with morality would. He does not care if he's remembered as a Hitler. He definitely would drop a nuke if the opportunity presented itself.

The only thing stopping him is the restraint of people in his admin. Not the people we see on TV. But the actual military leaders. And these military leaders are not moral either. They are simply concerned with whether is it strategically helpful to use one. Nukes are really not useful in warfare. I think this is literally the last line of sanity that keeps it from happening. We are all relying on war crazed genocide supporting military leaders to not see it as a good strategic option.

However, Iran is different. Trump cannot admit it was a mistake. His ego will not let him. And the military cannot secure trade routes without boots on the ground and tens of thousands of American military deaths.

So, well, those military leaders are being put in a corner. My only hope is that a military coup would be much more reasonable to them than dropping nukes. Trump wants to drop a nuke. But he wants to drop "the best nuke". The "most strategic nuke". Something that he will make him a great figure in his mind. Not a good figure. Not a moral figure. But in anyway that will be remembered with importance.

The threat has been there since Trump said he wanted to resume nuclear weapon testing even though every expert said it was an absolutely terrible idea.

He wants to order a nuclear strike on something. He's been trying to find the right excuse.

I'm honestly surprised the threat of such hasn't come up before this.

Both aggressors . U.S and Israel both have nukes. Iran does not.

But China does.

That's true, he stole our spy police and made them race police

I'd also not be surprised to see some more 9/11 shit in the US. They disassembled a lot of our security infra and put idiots in charge of things.

I'm reasonably certain that was the goal. They need to manufacture a crisis so they can get as close to a full government bypass as possible. I only hope if it happens, it isnt nuclear or dirty... And if it has to be anywhere... Somewhere directly responsible for the renewed hate.

he likely wants a GOLD plated nuke button in the oval office.

I hope you are right. And it makes sense.

On the other hand, that orange child rapist has the temperament of an insane toddler, and wants to be remembered. At the moment he's remembered mostly for being in cahoots with Epstein and for protecting paedos etc etc, so what better way to change that than by using a nuke on Iran...

2027 is China invasion of Taiwan. I think GTA VI will release this coming 2050.