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[–] [email protected] 112 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's been hard trying to ram into liberals' thick skulls that the "lesser evil" voting shtick that comes every four goddamn years doesn't quite energize people to haul their asses to the booths, especially when said lesser evil is the incumbent. But I've seen some come around recently, so it's something.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Also doesn't help when the "lesser evil" policy continues to become increasingly indistinguishable from the "greater evil" policy.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We have reached peak evil. There's no crime that is actually worse than genocide. Libs have lesser-eviled themselves to the bottom of the pit and arrived at the ultimate evil. technically they've been there for a long time, but the rank and file had no idea. Now they know what's going on, it's in the news, it's on their social media.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Meet me in the middle," says the unjust man...

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

sure says the other unjust man

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago

They are both unjust stuff

[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Look, you're just going to have to hold your nose and vote Genocidal Fascist Party. You don't want Fascist-Genocidalist Party to win, do you?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Also, Donald Trump is an evil fascist, but he's a cheap evil fascist. He would definitely inflame tensions with rhetorical support for Israel, say "Jerusalem is definitely seriously the capital guys", and probably appoint his son in law as their diplomat.

...but he probably wouldn't send them free weapons. There are a lot of areas where he is the greater evil but I don't actually think this is one of them.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The US has given weapons to Israel since the 1960s.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (17 children)

The libs would actually pretend to care about Palestinians and pretend to side against Israel if Trump were president.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Most liberals don't give a shit and are arguing in bad faith, be it consciously or not

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Easily the funniest thing would be Biden winning the electoral college but losing the pop vote.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the funniest thing would be literally no one voting

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Funniest outcome: Biden has a massive stroke shortly before the election, Trump wins easily vs a literally braindead opponent, then trump dies of McCardiacArrest before taking office, leaving us with president, uh idk maybe Matt Gatez or something.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (3 children)

leaving us with president, uh idk maybe Matt Gatez or something.

Mike Pillow

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

chuds would shed their material bodies and ascend to a plane of pure cope

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hey champ, can we maybe not talk about genocide right now?? Huh bud? Chief? Can we not do that while the most important election of our lifetimes is happening?? That ok buddy?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago

1 year into the term: hey buddy it’s only been a year. These things take time. Be patient.

2 years in: champ it’s almost midterms. We can’t lose the Senate over Palestine, the adults in the room have more important concerns.

3 years in: fam we have [arbitrary self- or GOP-initiated crisis like a government shutdown or Supreme Court decision] to deal with. This has to wait. We only have so much political capital.

4 years in: this is the most important election

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Liberals will blame three groups in this order: "Woke" leftists against genocide, Palestinian/Arab Americans, Black people

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 10 months ago

Yeah. I'm cool with it. Fuck those fascist shitheads. Some reddit-logo were handwaving "Genocide Joe" saying it was a GOP talking point. Fucking hell. I used to wonder, how could the Holocaust happen? How could so many people be complicit in something so horrible? I still don't understand it, but I'm afraid I'm starting to.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The rhetorical refuge of libs trying to vote scold right now is that genocide is going to happen either way, so you need to swallow your selfish pride and vote for the least bad genocide enabler.

A vote for someone endorsing genocide is apparently not approval of the genocide either. Vote for genocide but shake your head while doing it so everyone sees you disapprove.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago (1 children)

where did you come from?
where did you go?
I'll never vote for Genocide Joe

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (1 children)

they're 100% just gonna blame Muslims

[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Trump could put them in camps and libs would tell them they deserve it for not voting harder

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Bit idea: Joe Biden is a tankie.

  1. Supports sending the tanks (to Ukraine).
  2. Supports Muslim genocide (in Palestine).

See? Bona fide tankie.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Bona fide tankie

I think the term is actually Bona Fidel when applied to tankies

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I was banned from two different lemmyworld political coms for being against this kinda shit lol

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Most low income people were materially better off under Trump, whose pandemic policies resulted in the lowest childhood poverty rate since the 90s. (These welfare policies were cancelled or expired under Biden.)

Dems will still assume 3rd party and non-voters have a strong Biden preference.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If not for the pandemic, he wouldn't have done any of it. It wasn't a particular position of Trump's to give that money, he just was in the position to do so at a time of crisis.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The intent doesn't change the reality. If your kid only had food to eat because of a Trump policy and you're presented with a choice between him and a nigh-identical ancient piece of shit, which one do you think you're going to pull the lever for?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But how many people are going to see it that way vs just “Trump instated these programs that helped us, Biden took them away.”?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

At this point, does it even matter what their spin doctors and their strategic autopsies conclude? If an electoral system only presents two options against genocide: feverish support, or guilty complicitness then it's fucking useless, it belongs in the garbage. It sucks that it took me a genocide to really really recognize how useless partisan electoralism is, because it's hard to dispell the illusion that maybe it'll give you some crumbs if the right guy comes along. Nope, not even in the face of genocide will it cede an inch.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

Idk tho today's election results look pretty bad for the GOP lol. Just like the midterms did. Its possible that Joe himself will lose the presidency while GOP lose heavily elsewhere though? But like, the GOP is still dealing with a deflated base that got what they wanted in Dobbs and don't care anymore, and continue to run on culture war bullshit that noone actually cares about.

There's also the issue of RFK Jr, who is apparently mostly pulling votes from Trump.

Like yes absolutely 100% the genocide is going to deflate the zoomer vote* that helped Dems out so much in the midterms but I think the GOP is having electoral problems too, not the least of which that they support the Genocide too, which is going to make the whole thing a mess.

*Not to mention the Muslim vote which obviously tanked for good reason, and is a material thing in at least one swing state.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago

God RFK has been such a pathetic worm on this issue

I know he sucks for other reasons but it especially pisses me off that he knows that Sirhan Sirhan is innocent and thus should know that the CIA framed a Palestinian for his father's murder and yet he still supports zionism like a miserable little cuck and both sides this genocide

Meanwhile he has no problem with actually being antisemitic to jews with his insane covid conspiracies

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago

I'm expecting Islamophobia to become even more ingrained as usual with libs leading the charge and going "If Muslims didn't want Islamophobia maybe they shouldn't have voted for the Muslim ban president 💅"

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago

Nah, havent you heard? The dems won the Kentucky governors race by a few points so absolutely nothing has to change and Biden will breeze to victory in all the swing states polls say hes seriously underwater in

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Where was that tweet about democrats looking themselves in the mirror post 2016 and saying "we gotta get more racist"?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Blaming others for their own cataclysmic failures is just about the only thing that the Dems keep their promise on

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

vote BLUE No Matter Genocide

up-yours-woke-moralists

norm-respectable

biden-troll

meme post version: https://hexbear.net/post/1027843

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Are there even enough of us in this country to swing a fucking vote? Why do we keep getting blamed for everything?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago

The biggest voting block in the country and irrelevant at the same time

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This isn't devil's advocate this is parody

I decided to delete the thing I needed to explain and just leave this part.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (3 children)

spoilerLeftists need to understand that genocide isn't on the ballot and vote for what is

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I hope the democratic party loses the next thousand elections

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Obama had a close election against Romney in 2012, but that was with Obama who has a lot more charisma than the wet noodle that's Biden. Romney isn't really charismatic and the only reason libs like him is because he's "respectable." Trump has genuine charm and anyone who says otherwise hasn't spent a considerable amount of time in rural parts of the US where he's still adored.

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