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Idk tho today's election results look pretty bad for the GOP lol. Just like the midterms did. Its possible that Joe himself will lose the presidency while GOP lose heavily elsewhere though? But like, the GOP is still dealing with a deflated base that got what they wanted in Dobbs and don't care anymore, and continue to run on culture war bullshit that noone actually cares about.
There's also the issue of RFK Jr, who is apparently mostly pulling votes from Trump.
Like yes absolutely 100% the genocide is going to deflate the zoomer vote* that helped Dems out so much in the midterms but I think the GOP is having electoral problems too, not the least of which that they support the Genocide too, which is going to make the whole thing a mess.
*Not to mention the Muslim vote which obviously tanked for good reason, and is a material thing in at least one swing state.
God RFK has been such a pathetic worm on this issue
I know he sucks for other reasons but it especially pisses me off that he knows that Sirhan Sirhan is innocent and thus should know that the CIA framed a Palestinian for his father's murder and yet he still supports zionism like a miserable little cuck and both sides this genocide
Meanwhile he has no problem with actually being antisemitic to jews with his insane covid conspiracies
It's very easy to imagine democrats having a good election otherwise and just losing a couple of swing states and thus the presidency.
This election is like the end of Dallas Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles game last Sunday....both teams desperately trying to lose
Yeah I was going to say, the GOP has failed to find a particular angle to go after. I think Trump's legal problems are too confusing for the average chud to care about and it's not enough for them to care about their local politicians, or it's not something that grants them to say racist stuff.
Also as dire as the culture war is, I do have a gut feeling that it's just not enough to organize around. Conservative voters simply don't care enough. Whether that's because they don't understand, or they have limited exposure to the trans people they're supposed to hate, I don't know. Transphobic legislation keeps failing when it's up for public referendum. Abortion referendums keep failing to restrict abortion rights as well. Republicans have to keep slamming those through without votes through state supreme courts or legislature. You're right, they're getting what they want with abortion, it's practically illegal in half the country. They're failing to move onto whatever's next.
I don't really know what the strategy is going to be here. The Republicans really do seem adrift when it comes to having a coordinated base, like I haven't seen it like this since they failed to get interested in Mitt Romney in 2012, or I guess when Bob Dole failed to capture them in 1996.
I think that's part of it. Trans people are such a minority you can go your whole life without knowingly meeting one if you don't live on a major metro area. What they hate is a bunch of caricatures they see on online social media, but there isn't much place to direct that hate. As opposed to the segregationist south, they had black people in your zip code they could easily walk up to and express their bigotry towards. It was easier to keep the hate flowing cuz there was actually a concrete "other" that was moving into your space. Some CHUD in Nebraska would probably have to drive two hours to find the nearest trans person. Not that they wouldn't but it takes some time to coordinate that shit,
At the risk of entertaining the lib in me, I do think investing in elections is fine for the left if it's done as supplementary. But I'm surprised the People's Party genuinely has gone absolutely nowhere.
Republicans are running on brand loyalty alone, and dems are running on being a reaction to the GOP. I would think the People's Party would try to get one small win in a pretty small state like Rhode Island, make the news or something. While I'm not kidding myself and can safely say that only dems or GOP will be relevant on a federal level, I find that there are small wins to be had at the state and local level, and a breath of fresh air would clown on both parties.
Electoralism =/= participating in elections
Electoralism is treating elections as the primary vehicle for change
Ah, my mistake. I'm silly.
Isn't the People's Party a bunch of grifters? I haven't bothered looking too into them, it just seemed like a grift