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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 hours ago

I really hope the message is slowly getting through that having ICE or Border Patrol on your resume from 2025 onwards is a way to guarantee you'll never be hired at most places. If there's even a gap in your resume and you look like a thumb, people will assume that you were working at ICE and trying to avoid admitting it.

If you were stupid enough to take the job and want out, the only way is to become a whistleblower.

[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

So would I but you have to remember these are the kind of people who think, man if I had to stock shelves, I'd quit and get a job where I get to shoot people. And the more they shoot and hang around all the other overly testosteroned thugs, the more they enjoy the cruelty. If we had none of these guys we'd have no war.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 13 points 11 hours ago

This take makes the mistake of assuming anyone working this job is miserable about it. They LOVE to push people around to enforce how right they are about their racist ideas, and fuck everyone else for daring to question their overtly tribal amygdala, you must be one of the bad ones, and the bad ones growing number like a woke mind virus.

[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Then you didn't take the job so you could legally hurt and kill people.

[-] canthangmightstain@lemmy.today 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

But that’s not how it goes. That’s just the summary, and most anyone would balk at it being put like that. Just like most of Nazi Germany would’ve balked at gassing 6mil Jews if that’s what Hitler would’ve ran his campaign on.

First they say, “Ok boys, today we’re on crowd control. It’s going to be a little crazy out there today because of the officer involved shooting but we’re just going to try and keep it professional and hope for the best.”

Of course that’s coded to hell and passive voice for “the people are agitated and we gotta show force” but there’s a reason they don’t say it like that. It’s too direct. It might cause the more liberal minded to ask uncomfortable questions where everyone else can hear, and start to doubt the mission too.

Then they’re out there. Shoulder to shoulder. Dressed the same, on the same team, with all the (justifiable) anger of a mob directed right at them. Tribalism kicks in and it’s off to the escalation races. By the time they get to the tear gas stage they’re practically congratulating each other that they haven’t shot anyone else today.

[-] Fossifoo@hexbear.net 1 points 58 minutes ago

So then you go home and think about what happened for one minute and then you quit?

[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 73 points 17 hours ago

Pretty sure ICE agents see it as they get to shoot rubber bullets and throw tear gas at people protesting racism. They aren't being forced to do it, they're being given permission.

[-] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 2 points 7 hours ago

Are the bullets that killed those people made of rubber?

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 16 hours ago
[-] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago

every time I say "abolish the police in all 50 states" I get ratio'd into obscurity

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

That's because law enforcement does need to exist in some form. Definitely not in its current state, but to say it needs to be abolished completely is a bad take.

I mean, unless you're fine with innocent people dying to vigilante justice.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 13 hours ago

You’re fine with innocent people dying in state justice?

I would rather see community defence or “vigilante justice” as your propaganda frames it over the systemic global cop crime, violence, and murder. I know which one looks out for the people and it ain’t the fucking bastards.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 12 hours ago

Bro, I straight up said that the current state of law enforcement is bad, but the answer isn't to abolish law enforcement.

And all you have to do is look at what Reddit did in response to who they thought was the Boston Marathon bomber to see why community defense is a bad idea.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

On .world, sure. There are probably bots there for that, if not all the users being turbolibs. this is a db0 community.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

To clarify:

Skull fucking billionaires:

Necessary for the revolution, or gratuitously violent waste of time and waste of a good strap-on?

[-] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

ICE in particular has people in the field that aren't getting paid.. they're volunteering because they want to hurt people without consequences

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 31 points 16 hours ago

Don't forget that local cops also show up to beat and gas people on behalf of ICE (and Israel). ACAB all day everyday.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 16 points 16 hours ago

They got $50,000 signing checks.

But if they quit before 5 years, they owe $10,000 for each year.

How many of them blew the $50k on a truck, or paid their CC bills with it the first week?

Now they’re stuck there.

[-] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

They aren't even getting paid right now, several of them complained about not getting their salary in the ICE private subreddit. And if a new administration comes in and fires them, they're on the hook for 30k and cannot declare bankruptcy to escape from the debt.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

None of them got $50k, though. It's a structured bonus program. They don't get the full amount until after they hit several milestones.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago

it's hard to find specifics but last time I checked they don't get the full $50,000 immediately. It's something like $10k immediately, then $10k after a probationary period, then $10k a year for the next three years.

[-] SSETranquility@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

I heard some of those bonuses didn't even get to the employees.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

went straight to the dealership

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

All cops, dear. This is all cops. Ice is mot deployed to protests.

[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago

People who get these jobs, hope that that day will come where they can shoot and torture anyone really, civilians or not. They don't care. They are sick fucks without feelings or thoughts.

[-] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

They do have feelings or thoughts, and all of them are directed about how to give themselves and ONLY themselves pleasure, or they do have them, but they don't actually bring them up when it comes to hurting others.

There's two types of guys who do this stuff: those who genuinely think they're doing nothing wrong, and those who think hurting those inferior to them is good. Both are evil and lack empathy, but in different ways, one through indifference, and the other through active sadism.

(Edited my comment to reflect my point better)

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

time was people would join CBP as their first step into Federal Civil Service when they didn't have the test scores to get into other agencies. i guess now that's still true, only they aren't planning on leaving.

My dude if stocking grocery shelves paid six figures I'd do that tomorrow.

[-] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 18 hours ago

That makes it sound like you're ok with working for ICE because it pays so well

[-] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago

Which it doesn't. Which says a lot about them.

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago

Doesn't ICE pay like 20k€ a month?

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 15 points 16 hours ago

A bunch of new agents aren't getting paid at all.

But no, starting salary is like $48k. Like 4k a month. Seems to go up to the 80s. Not exactly "risk Hague trial" levels. In line with most office jobs.

[-] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 8 points 17 hours ago

I don't interpret their response that way.

As someone who is not in a good financial place, I would never work for ICE.

However, as someone who is not in a good financial place, if I realized I was probably working for an evil empire and couldn't change anything from the inside: I wouldn't be able to quit because my family would starve. I'd need to find another way to provide first, and that's not easy when you've got kids and debt in a bad job market.

Stocking grocery store shelves wouldn't pay the bills. That's fairy tale logic/something that people with means can joke about doing.

Heck yeah though, if stocking shelves paid 6 figures I'd apply immediately.

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

However, as someone who is not in a good financial place, if I realized I was probably working for an evil empire and couldn’t change anything from the inside: I wouldn’t be able to quit because my family would starve. I’d need to find another way to provide first, and that’s not easy when you’ve got kids and debt in a bad job market.

Ok, fair enough. Hopefully the enraged mob will accept this excuse once the evil empire tanks and it's mass graves are uncovered.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

If you can't afford to quit, use the anonymity built into the system to subvert from within. Fire high or low (as the manufacturer instructs!) to avoid harming people. Send the teargas upwind of your own guys, they're masked anyway. Treat protesters with respect and deescalate conflicts. If you're supposed to be rounding up random folks rather than a dangerous criminal, moonrun (a word I just coined to mean making it look like you're putting in the effort while not going anywhere fast) to fool your new body cam while you don't catch anyone. If you have to transport abductees, at least try to make them less uncomfortable and keep family members together. If they show you documents, believe/honor them, and don't confiscate them.

Most of this is how the job should legally be done, it only subverts the most evil parts. If they fire you, make sure you get the cause on record, if only through email bcc'd and saved to your own computer.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago

You'd have to fight so many autistic people to get that job, fr.

[-] alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 2 points 18 hours ago

where we are going, we don't need paid six figures, Marty

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Use up all your sick leave, put in a workers comp claim, get the union involved, and just milk it until they fire you.

Steal their pens and paperclips as well. Maybe a rifle or something too.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Kroger recently announced plans to close around 60 stores across the US over the next 18 months

Sorry. No more money to close stores. Only money to shoot rubber bullets and throw tear gas at the newly unemployed.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 14 hours ago

That's only 2% of their stores.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, that's actually pretty damn good given the current economy.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

Anyone else look at the avatar first and then find it impossible not to read in the voice?

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

wait theres a voice? what did i miss

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago
[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

that's christopher walken? i'm so ootl what did i miss

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

I tell myself a similar thing about soldiers that blow up civilian fishing boats.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

"ok, you mean like this?"

Pulls pin on tear gas grenade, dropping it on the floor of his office while staring him in the eyes

[-] Darkness343@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

I would gladly pull a doom slayer on the crowd to blow off some steam.

/SS

this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2026
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