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submitted 2 months ago by fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org to c/games@lemmy.world

To clarify, if I was introducing someone to the Diablo series for the first time and told them they'd have to start on the first one. I wouldn't want them playing the bare vanilla version. There is a Bezelbub mod out there that gives the game lots of QoL improvements, you'd be thinking you're playing a build of Diablo 2 before its final version.

So, if I had to tell anyone what the best way to play that game would be, it is the Bezelbub mod. That was how I've beaten the first game anyways.

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[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There are a host of open source remakes of old game engines that fix bugs and update them for modern systems as well as add support for higher resolutions and widescreen aspect ratios. Here's a few off the top of my head:

  • OpenMW for The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. This is probably the most famous one.
  • Daggerfall Unity for The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall.
  • OpenRA for Red Alert, Tiberian Dawn, Dune 2000, and (in pre-alpha form) Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 (the latter requiring extra fiddling with Github repositories).
  • KeeperFX for Dungeon Keeper.
  • OpenRCT2 for Roller Coaster Tycoon 2.
  • OpenTTD for Transport Tycoon Deluxe.
  • OpenJKDF2 for Dark Forces 2 and its standalone Mysteries of the Sith expansion.
  • Arx Libertatis for Arx Fatalis, though IIRC the version sold now integrates an older build of it; one without the fixes for glyph drawing - it's worth upgrading for that alone as spellcasting is a nightmare without the fix.
  • TRX for Tomb Raider I and II.
  • Tfix, T2Fix, and the Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 1/2/3 respectively. These are mods, not wholesale engine replacements, but serve the same purpose.

These are just the ones I know of. There are probably loads more.

Edit: the Ur-Quan Masters for Star Control II. I can't believe I forgot about this! Star Control II is one of the best and most influential games that most people have never heard about.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

OpenXcom for the first two X-Com games (UFO: Enemy Unknown and X-Com: Terror From The Deep). This reimplementation is insanely good.

  • It fixes all known bugs of the original X-Com engine.
  • It works on modern systems, including Linux, macOS, Windows, and even Android.
  • It has support for modern resolutions and aspect ratios.
  • It allows you to use soundtracks from other versions of the game (e.g. look at the website's "Extras" tab).
  • It has mod support including a basic mod manager. And some of those mods are damn good.
  • It runs flawlessly.

There's really no reason to play the original DOS versions anymore.

[-] mech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Sounds good, but is it really still X-Com without the bugs?

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I could argue that experiencing the Groundhog Day bug builds character but... no. Nobody should have to deal with that.

Admittedly, a few tactics like filling your base with laser rifles to make attacking aliens spawn unarmed no longer work. But honestly, an experienced player treats base attacks like bonus levels anyway so it's not like much of value was lost. Besides, you also now get all the loot from big missions and not just the first 128 items.

Also, UFO now actually remembers your difficulty setting and doesn't revert you to Beginner after the first mission. That's different but better. I probably should've mentioned that separately in my first comment.

[-] Peffse@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

OpenRCT2 is 100% the definitive way to play Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 & 2.

But I would never recommend a new player try OpenRA. The game has stellar multiplayer support but they just can't figure out the campaign scripting at all. Go with the remaster collection instead.

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Still? I haven't played OpenRA in several years and assumed they would have fixed it by now.

Then again Red Alert 2 is even less supported than it was the last time I checked, so I'm guessing their focus is mostly on the multiplayer side of things.

[-] DGen@piefed.zip 3 points 2 months ago

Speaking of Dark Forces 2 and Not about the Force Engine for the first Game? :0 you barbaric! Joking.

Yeah. Force engine fornthe First Game is top notch.

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

My bad! Every time I think about replaying Dark Forces I remember the sewer level with the dianogas and change my mind.

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[-] Kjell@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Really nice list. One can spend many hours on these games.

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[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 14 points 2 months ago

Viva New Vegas for Fallout: New Vegas and the Unofficial Patch for VtM: Bloodlines are my go-to examples. Not a mod but Ninja Gaiden Black is the definitive version and much better than both Ninja Gaiden (2004) and Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

[-] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 13 points 2 months ago

For League of Legends the definitive way to play is to not start. I swear I do not know of any other game that has such addictive properties while being so absolutely fucking awful. You don’t stop playing this game, You take extended breaks.
Friends don’t let friends play League

[-] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I found it incredibly easy to walk away from. Whatever it is that is supposed to be addicting about it it just didn't fire on me at all.

[-] baronofclubs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I was the same way. Got about 20 hours in and just couldn't get into it. I played with friends, bot matches, ranked, a variety of characters, and just never got the appeal. I really don't have a competitive spirit, so maybe that's the draw I'm not getting.

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[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

First off, here's a big list of unofficial ports:

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_unofficial_ports

Dhewm 3 for Doom 3. Just updates the game engine to run better on modern hardware since id tech 4 is open source. Mod support sort of, not every mod is compatible. They helpfully list those that do here: https://dhewm3.org/mods.html

The Sims 2 High DPI patch, self explanatory:
https://github.com/lah7/sims2-4k-ui-patch

VCMI - Heroes of Might and Magic 3 open source engine/game extension. Has a built in mod manager, really handy: https://vcmi.eu/

Coming soon / WIP: I'm excited to play this port of the MS-DOS game Albion when it reaches feature parity with the original:

https://github.com/csinkers/ualbion

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago

For Chrono Trigger, definitely don't play the original SNES localization. No disrespect to Ted Woolsey, he was one man working on an unreasonably tight deadline and hard technical limitations, but the retranslation is much better.

[-] Funnynate08@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago

Pokemon Red at 10fps on a gateway laptop circa 2004

[-] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago

Should I put the RAM back in?

[-] mech@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago

The definitive way to play Skyrim is to take a shot every time someone says "dragon".

[-] C8r9VwDUTeY3ZufQRYvq@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

Recommending that might be tantamount to manslaughter. Better check with a lawyer first.

[-] mech@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago

Quick question: Did you get the password and username fields mixed up when you made your Sopuli account?

[-] C8r9VwDUTeY3ZufQRYvq@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

That's crazy talk! What kind of lunatic would make a password without at least 3 symbols?!

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[-] teft@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago

I've been playing BG3 with a loot randomizer. It really makes you have to think about your builds because you can't rely on certain gear anymore. Makes it almost feel like a roguelike.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 2 months ago

Of course, if you don't look up any builds a first playthrough of BG3 will be indistinguishable from one with a loot randomizer.

Obligatory, if you do want a roguelike BG3 you can get that with the Trials of Tav mod.

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Silent Hill - alone, in the dark.

[-] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

Alone in the Dark - on a hill, silently

[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

I have been thinking of whether there was a pokemon mod that does something like this.

I’d like something that gets rid of trade evolutions and puts all 151 in a single game.

I’m sure it’s out there. So, I guess that’s my half assed attempt at an answer.

[-] fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 2 months ago

There's probably romhacks out there that do that.

[-] UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip 4 points 2 months ago

A modder named Drayano has pretty much defined this category of ROM hack and I think has his own version of every major game from generations 3-6

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago

Have a search for "universal pokémon randomiser" (there are apparently loads of different forks of it now), it's main feature is to randomise which pokémon you encounter, their types, moves, etc, but you could skip that and just set "change trade evolutions" and "catch em all mode" to get exactly what you want. I would recommend playing it randomised though!

[-] Odo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

There's one called simply Pokemon Blue - 151.

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[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Factorio. It doesn't matter how you are playing it, you are doing something wrong and that invalidates your whole base.

[-] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago

I finally properly started space age 2 days ago and feel like I know nothing again and have been cooking up spaghetti since

[-] rozodru@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

if you're playing FFXIV, especially on Linux, don't bother with the official launcher/updater. Use XIVLauncher, hell even use that if you're playing on Windows. Updates a hell of a lot faster plus you also get the dalamud stuff which adds a few quality of life plugin improvements.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

In the time since Quake released, common rendering systems and resolution options on monitors have changed. ID's solution to put it back on Steam was some gargantuan monolith wrapper that might've used Unity or something, and ties to an online ID, so that it could release on consoles. The open source community's solution was to take the original, open-source engine release, and port it upwards. Playing through the recent Quake Brutalist Jam 3, a map pack using a set of reinvented weapons and altered enemies, they recommend you use the "ironwail" source port, which even has a native Linux build.

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[-] paper_moon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Huh, haven't heard of Bezelbub mod, I'll have to check if its compatible with DevilutionX the open source reimplementation of Diablo 1. I played DevilutionX on my steamdeck, but got stuck in beginning of nightmare as my character wasn't powerful enough to continue.

[-] Marafon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Fallout Fixt for anyone wanting to dive into the OG fallout.

[-] Asparagus0098@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

I'd like to add a bit to this.

FALLOUT ET TU (Fallout 1in2) - Fallout 1 converted to Fallout 2 engine

Fallout 2 Restoration Project, updated - Bug fixes, QoL and more for Fallout 2

Fallout 2 Unofficial Patch, updated - Bug fixes only

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[-] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

With headphones.

[-] simulacra_procession@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

The first Kingdom Come: Deliverance was a great game and I think it should be played first, but I understand it's old clunky and unoptimized. These days it should be played with certain QoL mods like unlimited saving, instant herb picking (no animation), richer merchants, and trough washing deluxe/clean Henry (honestly I don't want to spend all my time going to the baths or looking shite). There are others, probably about 7-8 total, that I recommend but you get the idea.

[-] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Or you could embrace the vision, play on Hardcore with no map marker or compass, accept that travelling through war-torn lands is dangerous, feel the rush of galloping through the woods knowing a Cuman ambush could set you back 30 minutes, accepting that quests can fail, accepting that people will react to you stinking like blood and horse.

[-] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

There's something like 20 versions of Machaarior 2. Dos versions are the best. 

https://mech2.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=281

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[-] OrgunDonor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Quite niche, but sim racing, I will pick Assetto Corsa Rally as an example.

The definitive way to play is with a proper rig. 9nm+ Direct Drive wheel base, round wheel, a sequential shifter, handbrake and decent load cell pedals. Put it up on a nice ultrawide or triple screen and have an amazing time sliding through the forest. You can also do VR, for complete immersion as well.

Buuut that's also the expensive way, you can also have a load of fun with a controller or cheaper wheel on a desk.

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