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Now look up the Tulsa Massacre
Once i learned about what they did I can't forget it and will always bring up to people when relevant. Fucking insane what they burned it to the ground because they couldn't stand successful black people. And not one person ever faced justice for this.
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It's very similar to how a lot of Americans didn't know about the Tulsa Race Massacre until it was in The Watchmen.
I learned about it because of the show.
But I'm also not from the US. Still felt weird that it wasn't talked about more
On the one hand, every country has a fucked up history that they ain't teaching in classes. I learned most of my countries real history through reading books about this times
On the other hand: the US has a particular brutal and fucked up history that they ain't teaching
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Writing races/skin colour with a capitalized letter seems strange when it doesn't include a continent name
Black, with a capital, is a culture. It’s fairly old news at this point, but the point is that it’s because of the shared experience and lack of ancestral knowledge of those people becaus of things like the slave trade and ongoing, systemic racism. They don’t get to say “African” because they were completely cut off from that culture, which is already such a wrong thing to say because “Africa” is not a single place nor a single culture, nor even only a dozen places with a few dozen cultures(it’s a helluva lot more). Besides, after developing their own strong cultures, Haitian or Jamaican immigrants are far more from there than from anywhere in Africa.
“White” is not a culture. White people will very often tell you where their family is from, to the city, without even being asked and if you don’t know you can even just look at the last name they were able to keep when their ancestors arrived in North America. White people have the privilege to not be lumped together in our society and being referred to by their country in Europe far more often than by simply “European” while Black people will just get a useless “African” tacked in front of their country of residence’s name.
I would assume most of the time "black" is used in this context same as "white", as in to refer to a skin colour, not to a culture.
And can't people just refer in general to culture of white people collectively and unspecifically, that would also be written as capitalized "White" but would also be strange imo
Then that assumption is outdated, which is fine as long as, now knowing that, it is appropriately adjusted.
You can sorta refer to white people in that way but it doesn’t really have the same effect because of things like power dynamics and the fact that we are able to know where we’re from quite easily. For Black people it’s a cultural identity they needed to build nearly from the ground up, for white people it really is just a way to talk about a group of people based on their skin colour and generalized stereotypes. No one is White because they have connections to their more specific history, but many people are Black precisely because they don’t.
I get making a separation between reference to skin colour or "race" and culture, but I just feel like it should be consistent. Out of curiosity I checked how Wikipedia handled it and it doesn't seem like there's one rule
Ethno-racial "color labels" may be given capitalized (Black and White) or lowercase (black and white); mixed use (Black, but white) is also acceptable if editors at a particular article find it appropriate.
A June–December 2020 proposal to capitalize "Black" (only) concluded against that idea, and also considered "Black and White", and "black and white", with no consensus to implement a rule requiring either or against mixed use where editors at a particular article believe it's appropriate. The status quo practice had been that either style was permissible, and this proposal did not overturn that.
I wonder if it would be acceptable to do "White but black", I feel like that would seem outright sketchy in a way the opposite doesn't
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White people have the privilege to not be lumped together in our society
Calling them "white people" does lump them together. There's a fascinating history about how different ethnic groups got absorbed and assimilated into whiteness. You aren't supposed to look into your family's roots in Europe. That's woke nonsense! Just shut up, drink your beer, grill your steaks, watch football. You're white now.
BTW, I have heard people referred to as European-American. If your ancestors came from, say, Ireland, England, Spain, and Italy, you could call yourself an Irish-English-Spanish-Italian-American, but European-American is much easier to say.
It's also interesting when the New York Times writes an uppercase Black but a lowercase white in the same article.
because Black refers to a specific cultural group while white doesn't (that'd be Irish-American or whatever)
Jeez. I'm sure it is something where their heart is in the right place but just comes off as sketchy to me
People are erased all the time, our job is to make sure they were at least documented and were. The current administration is trying to erase recent and distant history. Hoard the data. Keep the dates. Write it down on paper, but still, we are watching the library burn in front of us.
This isn't just this administration, not even close. My family is from Tulsa, had never even heard of the atrocities that have been done to the black communities there.
People have grandiose expectations of elementary or high school education. At best, you have time to cover topics at a very high level and I've never had a class that even made it to the twentieth century.
As important as this historical tidbit is, it's not a condemnation of history education. More than likely, this would come about in a college level course that is more specific.
i found it pretty interesting that the slur 'redneck' originally referred to striking labourers who participated in the battle of blair mountain. I'm incredibly cynical mind you, but it revealed to me why the term is culturally contested even to this day.
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Channel 5 has a video about the Dodgers stadium in LA that was built to push latinos out.
often wonder how streets, towns, counties were named/renamed. was there a contest along the way
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