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All the other discussions I found on Lemmy dismiss it because they find the idea of a second phone ridiculous. Or because they don't buy into the "dumb phone" concept. But I think it makes a compelling phone on it's own, and you wouldn't need a second.

But really look into it. By every indication it appears designed to be a fully featured main phone. It has some compromises made to fit the keyboard first philosophy, but it has everything you'd need and more. Dual SIM (eSIM+physical), a headphone jack, micro SD Card support, a 50mp camera with OIS (I know megapixels don't mean much but I think it shows it's not gonna be the cheapest crap camera), NFC/Google Pay support, Android Auto, Qi2... That doesn't read "second phone" to me. It's just.... phone.

They have now said that it will have an unlockable bootloader too. I'm not finding much to dislike here. 8GB of RAM is somewhat low but should be fine. The processor is still a question mark but honesty as long as it's not bottom of the barrel it should be perfectly fine. I have always gone for flagship phones but honestly I've started analyzing what I actually do on my phone and I pretty much never push the hardware. I like knowing I have the top of the line but I basically just web browse, message, read email, scroll Lemmy, and listen to music/podcasts. Very occasionally watch some YouTube but that's usually on my TV or PC. No gaming or anything. I should be able to do all of that on this device, some of it won't be as good on that screen obviously but it should still be doable. I need the camera to at least be decent. Not great just not garbage. Like it's fine if the low light performance is meh and the video isn't the best. But I don't want to look at my photos and regret taking it with that device, so we'll see.

I don't want a dumb phone, and I don't think this is one. You should be able to do everything any other phone can. I don't think it's a second phone either. I think they're just leaning into that for marketing reasons, so that when anyone points out the tradeoffs of this form factor they can just wave it away as a secondary device.

It appeals to me because it's a small phone. Seriously nobody makes one worth using. Unihertz sure, if you want a bad software experience with no updates ever. But otherwise you just have the non-plus sized iPhone/Galaxy S. Those are considered small. Or maybe the flip-foldables. It also appeals to me because it has major character and (imo) style. I'm bored of glass and metal sandwiches. Give me this! A plastic device with a swappable back that has a (vegan?) leather option? Hell yeah.

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[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago

Why the hell would I want a "second phone"? I don't like my first phone. I want a phone that I don't hate, not a second phone to add to my misery.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago

I think the intent is to be a "work device"

A lot of companies will be lazy or have a BYOD policy. You will likely be asked to install extra security and monitoring software on your personal device to view work related info or check email.

The simple way to avoid this is to just get a second phone, and given how this device is has a smaller profile than a mid-range smart phone, its a good marketing bit.

[-] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You will likely be asked to install extra security and monitoring software on your personal device to view work related info or check email.

You can set up another user on Android which will practically completely isolate this software from your main user. Since it's your phone and it gets installed by you it gets treated as any other user app and AFAIK cannot break the isolation between multiple users like system or organisation apps probably could do. You just saved yourself few hundred dollars.

The only disadvantage I could see is you not getting notifications from your work user applications when you are using the main user.

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

The only disadvantage I could see is you not getting notifications from your work user applications when you are using the main user.

I'd reverse that. Not getting notifications of the personal user is a problem. Not getting work notifications during your free time is a big plus.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The average MDM software used to manage business phones won't accept being a secondary user, usually they must be set as "device owner" as they need full controll on apps (automatically install apps, veto certain content, and so on), maybe they will allow the opposite, personal stuff in the secondary user

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[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 week ago

All the other discussions I found on Lemmy dismiss it because they find the idea of a second phone ridiculous. Or because they don’t buy into the “dumb phone” concept.

Looks like OP made a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[-] bdonvr 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah I thought I made it clear what I was trying to say. This looks like a good phone on it's own. Like sell your old phone and buy this to replace it. Not a second phone.

[-] bdonvr 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not a clue. Wouldn't want that either. That's why I want it as my only phone....

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[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 67 points 1 week ago

8gig of RAM is a bit low

Manufacturers are going to ship laptops with 8gb ram in 2026!!

My smart phone has 6GB of RAM. I've managed.

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago

Oh wow, my incredibly snappy phone currently has 8GB of ram.

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If it has even decent custom ROM support I would 100% consider it. I hate it as a second device but as a main I love the design.

[-] everett@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Someone in the last thread said that the Mediatek SOC makes ROM support unlikely.

[-] btsax@reddthat.com 39 points 1 week ago

I might be in the minority here but I will not use a phone that I can't strip Google Play and other Google services out of, so it would need support from something like Lineage, Graphene, e, Linux, etc before I would consider it.

[-] bdonvr 19 points 1 week ago

I mean they said the bootloader is unlockable so at least being able to disable Google services should be possible. We'll see how community support goes.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 12 points 1 week ago

If it's flashable and the community support is good enough then this might be my next device. Will have to check on it once the community drops support for my ancient secondhand phone. XD

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

I recall someone here on Lemmy emailing their support and they replied confirming it's bootloader unlockable.
Graphene is unlikely because of their ultra tight security requirements (I really believe the only time we ever get a supported phone outside of the Pixel is when Graphene makes their own or partners directly with a OEM) but hey, most likely Lineage!

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 35 points 1 week ago

256GB on-board + expandable MicroSD card storage up to 2TB

$400. Reservation 200.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 27 points 1 week ago

I'm not thrilled about the processor, but this guy is still on my radar because of the physical keyboard and expandable storage, not upset to see a headphone jack either.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

Do they even say what processor it has? All I see is "4-nanometer, 5G IoT SoC platform from MediaTek" which means nothing to me.

[-] deepfriedchril@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

No, they are waiting to announce. People have speculated as there's only a few that would be viable.

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[-] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

RIM should blow everyone's mind and release a new QWERTY BlackBerry. The market would lose their shit.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 20 points 1 week ago

I'd rather have a new Palm device, too bad their management shit the bed and destroyed the company.

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[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago

RIM no longer own BlackBerry. The Clicks Communicator has some of the blackberry team on it's team.

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

This looks awesome and would consider looking more into it as a real alternative to the current crap, BUT....

  • I will never buy a product that isn't already produced and ready to ship. Funding campaigns like this are imo most likely scams, very often not serious and if they truly are great, I'd rather wait for V2 or V3 to come, before buying

  • the physical keyboard is great for english users but terrible for people who need to use 2 or 3 languages on their phones.

  • I need android or iPhone to run the local authentication apps for banking, doctors appointments app and even some times payment methods

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

"Smart enough" would have been nice marketing, no?

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 11 points 1 week ago

Same. It would definitely be my daily driver. I'm using the Minimal Phone now but have often found that I would rather have this same form factor with a regular screen, and the Communicator seems to basically be that. I am still deciding if I want to pre-order but I've set a reminder to do or don't before the window closes.

According to the support ticket I put in a week or so ago, the bootloader will be unlockable which is great news.

The only thing the specs don't mention is how much RAM it will have.

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[-] MolochHorridus@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

While I fully understand why it doesn’t have umlauts that’s a dealbreaker for me for this and probably pretty much every such device that will ever come out nowadays.

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

If they make a model with a QWERTZ keyboard I might consider it as my next phone.

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[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago

I think the only compromise is that it doesn't have a flagship camera and a smaller screen which is a given for the keyboard. Not sure how the IP rating will be, though. But it looks really promising as a phone that would suit the majority of people who aren't trying to use their phone as a gaming console

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[-] deepfriedchril@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Clicks did an AMA over on Reddit yesterday. Was actually pretty good.

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Too bad it will not work in Canada for some carrier like Rogers who VoLTE blacklist phones they don't sell...

Also what is the target price of this phone?

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

Not the phone's problem

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[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

$400usd to pre order a phone thats almost the same as the phone i had in 2011, but golly would I like to have one

[-] oOAlteredBeastOo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I'm into it. Would make a great work device. The power keyboard product also looks like an interesting product.

Clicks Power Keyboard

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[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

Man, if this thing can run one of the various Linux phone OSes, I'm buying it in a heartbeat. Shame about the huge corner radius on the screen, though. That'll make it annoying for terminals.

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