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[-] luridness@lemmy.ml 145 points 2 weeks ago

Do the Americans not realise that.. like every single one of them going back 4-5 generations are immigrants? Very few native Americans are out there because of immigration.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 79 points 2 weeks ago

Just as most Americans who have moved to other countries refuse to call themselves immigrants, and default to calling themselves "expats", most don't seem to get that, no.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Isn't an expat usually somebody who is sent abroad for work by his employee?

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

An expat is anyone who lives outside of their native country while intending to return, while an immigrant is someone who moves to another country permanently.

One reason why you rarely hear about American "immigrants" to other countries is that it is absurdly hard to relinquish US citizenship. So even if an American were to gain citizenship elsewhere, they still owe US income tax, and are reminded of their status every April.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

They still have to file income taxes. But, most places have higher taxes than the USA. Most places also have reciprocal tax agreements with the US. There's also a deduction of something like $100k, so the first $100k (or local equivalent) you earn in another country isn't taxed. As a result, unless you're making high six figures, you don't actually owe any American taxes.

OTOH, just filing US taxes is a real pain in the ass. In the US it's made very slightly easier by your employer, bank, etc. all supplying you with the tax forms you need. If you're overseas, you need to figure out the info you'd need to supply on that form yourself.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, but that only seems to apply to Americans, and in some parts Brits.

[-] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

It is less of a US thing, and more of a class thing. Expats are temporary work assignments overseas usually for high paying leadership positions.

[-] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

White = Expat 

Anything else = Immigrant

It's really that simple

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[-] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 44 points 2 weeks ago

Too many Americans think "immigrant" is just a synonym for "not white".

[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The people calling for these atrocities and committing them are white supremacists. What is happening is exactly what they want to happen.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

native Americans

Even they are being snatched off streets and "detained".

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago

Not to mention that ICE is frequently abducting Native Americans because they're brown

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

They’re arresting and detaining the actual native Americans too. Because they really want a Christo-fascist white state, not a native one.

That’s why they want to import the racists from South Africa.

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Most Americans realize this, but our government doesn't give a shit what we think right now. Trump and the GOP are not representing us.

Look at Greenland. 75% of Americans oppose what Trump is doing with that topic. That's disgustingly low, too... But still, he does it anyway.

This isn't new. Most Americans have no agency. We're just a few notches above slave labor at this phase. All we can do is vote, but the wealthy are influencing those votes all over the country with money and propaganda.

For every sane person speaking out, there's two to three others that have given up on everything. They'll just watch the news and do what it says. Or, worse, a massive percentage of Americans don't do anything. They don't vote, they just take it because they've given up completely on everything outside the ongoing crisis that is their lives.

[-] MrSmith@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Do the Americans not realise that..

No.

[-] stelelor@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

This is the 21st century version of Manifest Destiny. Their immigrant status doesn't matter because they're white and therefore superior.

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[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 100 points 2 weeks ago

Carrying your documents around seems like a great way to have them stolen from you during your 'arrest'. You'd be lucky to see them again.

[-] alternategait@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Right. I hear people pushing passport cards. I can so easily imagine

“Here’s my passport card”

“Thanks”


“Where’s your id?”

“I gave you my passport card”

“No you didn’t/what passport card?”

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago

To prevent these tragedies, the Trump administration will simply offer numerical tattoos that can't be lost.

[-] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 88 points 2 weeks ago

You NEED to Comply with These Unknown Heavily Armed Men otherwise they have EVERY LEGAL RIGHT to KILL YOU!

-People who Complained about Rights during Covid!

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 85 points 2 weeks ago

Most of them can't read or function at a adult level. They get paid by the kidnapping so they don't care enough to look for proof.

[-] homes@piefed.world 79 points 2 weeks ago

Because they don’t give a shit whether you’re you’re a US citizen or not. They just want to hurt brown people.

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[-] RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Another U.S. citizen: 22-year-old Dulce Consuelo Diaz Morales was in custody for 25 days and transported to facilities in Louisiana, Texas, and New Jersey. In one detention center, she told WJZ Investigates she slept on the floor.

Her legal team provided documents, including her Maryland birth certificate and immunization records, along with other records they said they verified through an expert at Johns Hopkins University, but the Trump Administration is not backing down.

she now must wear an ankle monitor.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago

They have arrest quotas, not identification quotas. They don't care.

[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 2 weeks ago

I dont know why they even mention the bit about criminal history. It would be no less heinous if she did have a criminal record.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

It's because the justification that the Administration keeps giving is that they are getting "criminals" off the streets. So it's worth in these articles when ICE picks up citizens who have no criminal record. It directly illustrates how they lie.

[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I just wish we would stop letting fascist dictate the language thats used. We should stop playing into the performance of what they're doing. Don't afford it ant legitimacy. There's no contradiction in their behavior, because nothing they say is real. What is real is their hatred for minorities. What is real is their fascist takeover of the country. And the mass targeting of racialized minorities.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

The problem is that, as US government officials, their words matter. Their official statements are newsworthy, even if they are lies. The media can't really ignore what they say. They can, however, illustrate when they are lying, even if this Administration throws a hissy-fit over it.

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[-] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 weeks ago

Lol omg. Imagine living in a country where you have to carry citizen paperwork around or get fucked over because you're a different colour. What a shithole.

[-] destructdisc@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

no no, that "or" should be an "and" -- having paperwork doesn't save you from getting fucked over

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 18 points 2 weeks ago

Welcome back to Nazi Germany, because that's what the country that used to be the Land of the Free is turning into.

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[-] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What paper work? The birth certificates from the 80s here are like a piece of construction paper. No one is going to believe that is real.

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[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

when ICE decides you look like an immigrant.

Not surprising they have all sorts of Aryanisms as they seek to carve out a white ethnostate.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Not only that, but they have an app that is supposed to help them figure out your status using facial recognition. They are admitting that they only harass people who their app thinks looks un-American. And they believe their app even if you have valid documents that say otherwise.

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/08/nx-s1-5585691/ice-facial-recognition-immigration-tracking-spyware

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Betcha they have it programmed to recognize racial-specific features, something the Nazis built up to ID who is "Aryan", including purported facial bone structure.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

There are plenty of illegal Caucasians from eastern Europe. Basically untouched by the US version of the SS and NKVD.

[-] nomy@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago
[-] lolo@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago
[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago

"Carry your social security card!"

Why, so they can just rip it in half and call it fake documents? Pass. Just fuckin illegally arrest me and let's get it over with.

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[-] jali67@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 weeks ago

What’s worse is that ICE is just a bunch of untrained hicks with a badge

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 27 points 2 weeks ago

2 days detention for a Kavanaugh stop, huh? I think we should add up all the time citizens have spent detained because of blatant racism like this and then the man himself can sit in a shit hole jail for that length of time until he stops being too white to consider that other humans deserve better. I insist all his food contain spice levels not safe for white people to consume.

[-] BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 weeks ago

You can't negotiate with terrorists. They aren't there for a legitimate purpose. ICE is a Run-Hide-Fight encounter.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Lol nevermind, we have a whole rl documentation with Germany on what leads to what and still people think it will be different for them.

That's why I am convinced the US will go through terrible times until it can get better.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

There is no incentive to comply. They want violence. Give them violence. They are going to kill you either way.

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[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago

i wonder when perceived immigrants are forced to wear somekind of mark on them, maybe a star.

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