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MN state investigators being sidelined by the FBI

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[-] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 121 points 4 weeks ago

Holy shit. They already lied on TV. This is just more of the propaganda to paint this woman as a terrorist and justify her murder.

None of us are safe from the regime.

[-] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 95 points 4 weeks ago

"It was concluded by this institution that the ICE agent committed no wrongdoing. It was also concluded by this institution that the deceased was a dumb bitch who deserved to die."

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 31 points 4 weeks ago

That was a tough upvote.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 44 points 4 weeks ago

For my entire life, I've been hearing people warn that the Federal government was too large, too powerful. I never gave it much credence. I often dismissed these people as just paranoid weirdos. I'm starting to think they were on to something. It was relatively easy to ignore these folks when the Federal government was generally competent and stable enough, but now, perhaps the MAGA movement has exposed something.

Maybe the Federal government is too large and powerful. Maybe we do need a weaker Federal government. Maybe states should have more power, more autonomy, greater independence.

I know I'm going to get some reflexive negative responses to this, because it might appear that I'm aligning myself with some problematic right wing libertarians, but given all that's happening I think the idea that the Federal government might be too powerful is a possibility we have to at least consider.

[-] gustofwind@lemmy.world 45 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Nobody likes a strong federal government when it does stuff like this

Everyone likes a strong federal government when it competently handles a pandemic, economic crisis, or intelligently arranges for the well being of its citizens

You can’t magically solve the problem of almost half your country being bigoted supremacists by just reallocating some power

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 4 weeks ago

It's a false dichotomy of having either a strong or a minimal government. You can have both at the same time, strong in some areas, small to no influence in others.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 6 points 4 weeks ago

People in the US don’t know what it looks like to competently handle a pandemic.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

So we just have to take the bad with the good? This woman's life, and all the lives taken by the Federal government over the many years are just the price we have to pay for the privilege of having our "well being" managed by benevolent technocrats in the Federal government?

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Does this qualify as intelligently arranging for the well being of citizens?

https://lemmy.world/post/41336318

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)
[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, yeah? Isn’t that everybody? Do people get excited when governments do things they think are shitty and angry when they do beneficial things?

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[-] orclev@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

The problem is it doesn't have anything to do with how strong or weak the federal government is right now. Trump literally does not care what he's "allowed" to do as part of the federal government, he just does what he wants and then dares anybody to stop him and so far everyone else has blinked. Half the things he's done he's not actually legally allowed to, so removing even more powers from the federal government won't stop him and it will just further empower the bad actors at the state level.

The primary argument for state vs. federal isn't about someone having "too much power", it's about having the option to experiment with different ideas. If there's no clear consensus about something and a bunch of different ways you can go about handling it that all seem equally valid that's a pretty good argument for leaving it up to the states to hammer out. If it's something basic that everyone should be on board with like basic human rights, that's a good argument for federal control.

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 12 points 4 weeks ago

People when their party isn't in charge: "the government is too big and powerful."

People when their party IS in charge: "the government isn't powerful enough to be effective."

Every single time. This is rarely a principled stance.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

I get what you're saying but my dismissal of the idea that the Federal government was too powerful spanned decades and multiple presidential administrations, both Democrat and Republican. It hasn't been until Trump, or more specifically Trump's second term that I've even started to question it. So, for me at least, it isn't merely a matter of partisan grievance.

I think it's more a matter of seeing the incredible power of the Federal government fall into the hands of people whom I consider to be severely misguided, unhinged and wildly incompetent that is making me reconsider my position.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 weeks ago

You're not alone friend, I've never particularly trusted the gov but seeing it fully weaponized under this admin has me reconsidering if I should have listened more to the nutters.

[-] devolution@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Yes and no. Were the nutters right? Yes. But it's the nutters that are supporting this shit.

So maybe projection? 🙃

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

I suppose the only difference between a conspiracy theory and an outright conspiracy is evidence and intentions. We're now drowning in both.

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[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

I’m not a nutter bruh, I fought the drug war for 20 years. This kind of shit was a constant reality. Now you get to enjoy it too. People only care when it’s happening to them or their group. This is how they treated black communities for 200 years. Welcome to the thuderdome law abiding white folks!

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 4 weeks ago

Lol hilarious. You’re right, of course. This kind of shit has been standard in low income black communities since long before I was born, one white lady gets shot by a cop and NOW libs suddenly care.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Ya looks like this hurt some people’s feelings, but I guess that’s how it goes. Gotta stop the oppressive system before it gets to you. Probably feels bad to realize that fact when it’s too late to change it.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 4 weeks ago

The funny thing is they probably STILL wont do anything about it.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

There will be no justice until we start from the top down.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 4 weeks ago

Honestly at this point I’d be fine with Americans starting ANYWHERE as ling as they do SOMETHING useful. ANYTHING.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Ya we can’t even assign blame to the correct parties. We’re fucked chief just let us implode in peace

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 4 weeks ago

I can’t let you guys implode in peace because you’re threatening to invade my country!

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not sure if we’ll invade anyone yet. We seem to be picking too many fights to dedicate the military to all of them. The mid terms are coming up too, they will probably need the military at home. I think the odds of them invading California is higher than Canada but who knows. It’s all whims of a madman

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[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 weeks ago

I was told the reason guns were needed was in case a tyrannical government took over

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago

They were. You didn’t listen. Now here you are.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago
[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago

Nor I. Fair enough. 😆

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 4 weeks ago

I agree, sort of. The concentration of power in the US federal government is a huge issue, especially that of the president. However the concentration of power that I’m more worried about lies within the wealth of a few individuals. That power needs to be decentralized swiftly and brutally. The power balance in state vs federal is moot if one man can spend a fraction of a fraction of a percentage of their wealth to buy every politician in the US. And theres a ton of people like that. With that wealth.

They will not give it back willingly. They will not allow you to vote them out. They have enough money to buy every politician, do you seriously think they will allow those politicians to pass laws that will tax them out of existence? If by some miracle enough politicians turned down the money and began passing laws to tax billionaires out of existence, they would do anything in their power to prevent that. This is billions on the line. They would ASSASSINATE people before allowing that to happen. They certainly have before.

Sorry I went on a little tangent there, but I got myself all worked up and frustrated again about this shit. There isn’t an easy, bloodless, show up every once in a while and vote your way out of this solution.

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[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

Cops are notoriously bad at their jobs, but they don't really need the federal government's permission to investigate.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago

The feds have all the evidence, as well as access to the murderer who they've surely already removed from the state.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Oh, they don't have all the evidence. I've seen multiple videos of the shooting, we know the license plate, there are witnesses, etc.

The feds aren't going to help, but what's to stop them from opening a tip line about who the guy is like the feds did for Luigi?

Go to the hotel where the secret police are staying and subpoena their records.

There are still things the cops could do if they wanted to.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 9 points 4 weeks ago

A reminder that there is no statute of limitations for murder. We can resume the case at any point in the future, e.g. under a different administration if necessary.

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 weeks ago

Authorities on Wednesday said the BCA would be working jointly with the FBI on the investigation. BCA agents went to the scene Wednesday believing they’d play a role.

But in a statement Thursday, the BCA said the FBI reversed course and that the federal agency would be the sole investigative unit.

That meant the BCA would no longer have access to the case materials, scene evidence or investigative interviews necessary to complete a thorough and independent investigation, the state agency said.

[-] devolution@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

The conservative end goal.

[-] Bwaz@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, we can certainly trust the FBI and the rest of the State Department* on this

/s ...and maybe we should rename it as the "Dictatorship Department" now.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 weeks ago

Reminds me of every movie ever that involves an oppressive army enforcing a dictator regime

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