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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by JoeByeThen@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Ran across this on insta today.

How do they know this:

Vibes

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[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 57 points 1 month ago

Meaningless nonsense or not, this is the classic narrative manufacturing where the US creates a security threat and then criticizes the targeted state for addressing the security threat. Why should Venezuela not be increasing surveillance while the US is attacking and killing its citizens?

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

And openly bragging that the CIA is conducting operations on the ground from the President's mouth. I mean they are at war. It isn't theoretical, their enemy the US empire is off their coast poking and prodding at them, arming up for an attack, has said it considers their government illegitimate and has made its goals toppling that government and taking the oil. This is a siege situation and harsh measures may be needed.

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Creating double binds is an old standby of US foreign policy.

[-] William_Nilliam@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago

freeze banks

Invalidate passport

Block gas

Deny hospital access

Cut off utilities

Erase your identity

tfw it's all projection

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

lmao.

made-it-the-fuck-up

Their proof is that banking websites were slow on christmas. JFC.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago

Venezuela released VIDEO of girl in WELL that KILLS YOU after 7 DAYS

[-] Euergetes@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

the united states government famously can't revoke an ID and make your life hell

[-] Crucible@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

They have a switch that can delete my entire digital footprint? Comrade Maduro, sign me the fuck up

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

Source?

i-love-not-thinking Well, they're evil and we're good. So if we're doing this vile, heinous shit they must be doing something at least as bad, right?

[-] Carl@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even if true the most sinister thing here is checks notes the government being able to deny you government benefits. Only in Venezuela, am I right?

[-] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

We need to invade the commies to stop them from stopping communism, communistically.

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

And here I thought conservatives were all for that

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

This isn't going to manufacture anything with europeans because the euro countries are all doing or in the stages of planning to do this centralisation. They are being convinced to do it by Palantir under the basis that a centralisation of data is better for AI parsing it.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Oh, no, best part: somebody in the comments saying it was palantir doing it and that it was what they wanted to bring home to us.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The last slide just looks like a joke, nobody believes that Chinese social credit shit anymore serious except the most moronic of right wingers. Most libs have learned it's not really true.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago
[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The feds are so drunk on their own sauce they don't even realise how out of date their own propaganda is

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Nope, pretty sure libs definitely still believe it’s true.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

I think you underestimate the liberal ability to be hypocritical about their own beliefs.

It'll be a "Yeah, it's bad when it happens anywhere, which is why Venezuela's government has to go!"

[-] Euergetes@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

data centralization is hardly a palantir thing, not to sound like im defending their intentions with people's data, but bureaucrats want consolidation and simplification independent of state surveillance.

having multiple divided certificates and identifications is neither security for individuals or a guard for civil rights generally--they have to put more words in the 'state enemies don't get X' clause, big deal. the only reason the width of independent state documentation exists is because it was impossible to consolidate with the technology that existed when the systems were set up.

[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The kill-switch for citizens is called the trigger of a cop's gun in the US.

[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

And in the democracy loving United States of America, the government just kills you.

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Bovedes nutz

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

I'm so fucking tired of this shit

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Be the monkey wrench you wish to see in the world.

[-] LeonTreatsky@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is just something the US will implement.

[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

you are not immune to propaganda but like, come on, have some self respect man

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago
[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What is the NSA?

[-] hexthismess@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago
[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Invalidate your passport? Can't have that, it's reserved for true threats to national security like taking a fully-filmed bus tour in Bad Country alongside normal citizens from other western nations.

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

We intercepted the packets and inspected them deeply

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

We hit f12 and saw a .gov url

[-] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago
[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Why would you even include the "how we know this" slide if that's what it looks like? Even if we took them 100% at their word about all that "evidence," what they're describing in no way follows from the evidence presented. It would have been more convincing if they just hadn't included any "evidence" at all.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Because the average person doesn't know what any of that means. It's just something for them nod at.

I remember once around the 2016 era I was reading an article where they were accusing Russia of hacking election offices and it turns out that they were just being port scanned like every other IP is 24/7. But people bought right into that narrative hook, line, and sinker. I had so many arguments with libs in my life about that shit. And I'm someone that can point to my own work being on wikipedia. But my word meant nothing because I'm just some nerd they know, and the news is an authority figure in their lives. The Consent do be manufactured.

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