Looks like I'm spoiled for choice. Temu has exactly the same for 11.29. Not that I'd be purchasing from either place; it's just another example of Amazon's enshittification.

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[–] 166 points 9 months ago (20 children)

I always love the nonsensical order of letters that these companies use.

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  • [–] 93 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    It's because of the US patent and trademark office. Not many people are competing with those who slam their heads on the keyboard for their brand names.

    Amazon required a US trademarked brand name after the first bout of "el cheapo boot leg" products hit the news cycle (the pajamas on fire and hair curlers that would kill you), so we had these alphabet soup brand names ever since.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I read that it's to avoid internal competition.
    A Chinese company manufactures a product (or parts of it) for a Western brand with high quality control standards.
    Half the production output meets the standard and is sold under the Western brand name for a higher price.
    The other half is sold much cheaper, with a brand name that sounds unappealing to Western customers but can still be sold to Asian markets or people who don't care and only look at the price.

    So the English name sounds bad on purpose to steer Western buyers towards the more expensive brand with a higher profit margin.

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    [–] 96 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    People need to realize that Amazon has them locked in.

    I needed a tall mini fridge for a garage. Cheapest I could find was fucking $700.

    I went into a nearby home appliance store and got the same one for fucking ~$200. Granted I had to pay for an $80 delivery, but it still beats the shit out of every option for a 7 cu ft fridge on Amazon.

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  • [–] 63 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Every dipshit with a freshly minted MBA thinks they're going to go and disrupt the appliance industry by putting it online and snatching it out from under all those antiquated local dealerships run by out of touch old men who can barely operate a computer. They think they're going to go from zero to nationwide tomorrow, and they're so smart because nobody's thought of it before.

    It turns out that dealing with the final mile with appliances is killer, and extremely difficult logistically. That makes the entire operation much more expensive than anyone thinks at first glance. Not just in terms of raw dollars and cents paid to disinterested common carriers to move your product from A to B (who also won't install the stuff or even bring it inside your customer's house) but also in damaged and returned products and angry screaming customers who will be initiating credit card chargebacks all the time whenever anything goes wrong.

    All of those little local dealerships have had decades to figure out how to move a refrigerator from their warehouse to your kitchen and how to remediate the situation if it all goes pear shaped on delivery day, and all of them only service their local territory for a reason. The further you stretch without some physical presence in where you're stretching to, the more impossible it becomes to control the logistics.

    So yeah, that's probably in no small part why your fridge would have been so expensive. Amazon is among the latest figuring this out the hard way, and you can't just slap a refrigerator or a stove in a bubble mailer and dump it on somebody's front porch.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Not to be that guy but there's no way in hell that $700 is true. There are pages of fridges for less than $400 that are 7 cu ft.

    Here's one for $300

    I mean, fuck Amazon and all that jazz, don't get me wrong - I just feel like it's worth noting the hyperbole. It's not that bad, at least from an end consumer perspective.

    Amazon is admittedly powered by greed and the tears of the proletariat but they do a good job keeping the customer happy.

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    [–] 65 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

    Honestly, my strategy for buying goods online is to look up the relevant wikipedia article, read the list of manufacturers, look at their own wikipedia pages or read customer reviews, then finally go to the company site and ordering directly.

    For used items or niche items not widely produced, ebay or craigslist.

    Amazon always had funky shit with how they recommended things - now people just know how to game it more, so winning move is not to play there.

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    [–] 62 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    This shit frustrates me to no end. These days I just look on Aliexpress first, just so I’m aware what the usual drop shipping item actually goes for.

    It’s very annoying that platforms like Amazon tolerate this. Because it’s actively driving me away from them. I want to see good quality items, not the same Aliexpress shit priced ten times higher. But I can’t FIND the good stuff because the platform is literally full of garbage.

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    [–] 57 points 9 months ago

    It’s missing the random “Amazon’s Choice” badge on one of the 20 identical choices 🤣

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  • [–] 46 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Amazon is just a drop shipping marketplace where everything comes direct from the exact same warehouse in China.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago

    Exactly. Once you know about "white box" goods and the robust Chinese manufacturing chains that support it, you can't unsee it.

    What blows my mind is that Amazon is just accelerating this, and at times, embracing it with their own brand. They've gone from being a whole-ass shopping mall to end-of-days-K-Mart in just a few years.

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    [–] 43 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Honestly, I stopped buying on Amazon 3 years ago. Apart from an enshittified experience I don't want to pay for Jeff Bezos next Helicopter. I go to the store or buy on alternative web sites which are 10€ more expensive, but fuck Jeff.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    ebay. You get pretty much the same offerings but at least on ebay the people selling actually care about looking good since negative reviews really tank your scores and those actually matter.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Just a week ago I got victim of Amazon dropshipping on eBay. The product was delivered by and from Amazon, but the ebay seller used a weird tracking service so it isn't too obvious. He put the 5€ difference directly into his pocket. I complained to eBay, but they decided "based on automation and the use of artificial intelligence", that no rules were broken. So be careful with using eBay as an alternative. Negative reviews can be more or less easily removed on eBay, better give a neutral review in these cases.

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    [–] 34 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    Man it’s fallen off a cliff. Many years ago I bought a knockoff Chinese messenger bag from Amazon. It’s fantastic, great materials, good quality zipper, it’s held up to daily use for years and looks even better than when I got it (leather developed a nice patina).

    So, I needed another bag, went looking for the same brand as mine. No longer there, but there are 75 identical looking but weirdly named brands instead. I found one that looked as similar as I could to my old bag, and this one is an utter piece of shit. I mean, I’ll use it, it’s a duffle bag so not as much use as the messenger bag, but the difference is stark. Stiff, cheap cloth, leather sure, but probably harvested entirely from cow buttholes, zippers look brass, but one zip and the color wore off…

    Everything, even purchased goods have enshittified. Everything looks cool but just absolutely sucks.

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    [–] 31 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    The internet was so good in 08. You searched for stuff, found exactly what you needed, and were done.

    Poor kids today will never know anything other than ad ridden bot corponet.

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    [–] 28 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I deleted my Amazon account last month. No more Goodreads and IMDb is just another plus.

    Extracted my ebooks from my Kindle with Calibre, so I am fine.

    Feeling good and less targeted and bombarded.

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    [–] 27 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    But you know that capitalism is so good because the free market ensures that there’s so much variety and choice in quality and innovation.

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    [–] 27 points 9 months ago

    More expensive AliExpress...
    It feels like Amazon is flooded with dropshipping beyond repair.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Are you looking for something which can actually take a beating? I have bought like four of these cheaper bags on Amazon and they all fall apart in a year or two. And before then they all have shitty strap adjustments which slowly slip over time.

    I'd strongly suggest getting something like a chrome or timbuk2 bag which will be like 5x more expensive up front but will actually last decades instead of years. I have been dailying the OG chrome citizen messenger bag for five years now and it's barely broken in.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Timbuk2 isn't as good as they used to be. If you can find a used one it's worth it, I've had mine for like twenty years, but I wouldn't gamble on one made in the last five years. (They closed all their physical stores and cut costs on manufacturing by moving offshore)

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    [–] 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Do Amazon companies count in Scrabble?

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    [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    My co-worker & I have the exact same lunchbag, except the label has a different gibberish name on it. Yup, both from Amazon.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I will not defend Amazon. But the lack of local retail/price gouging which is shipping in Canada keeps pushing me to Amazon.

    I need a role of 3D printable filament or an SD Card. The nearest store is 1-2 hours away and costs twice as much for the convenience, buying from the manufacturer may not possible and if it is shipping cost just as much as the product.

    I would love it if there was competition, but there isn’t and Amazon knows it. So for the most part I just buy from brands I know are safe.

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    [–] 18 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    Just in case anyone actually intends to buy one, buy european: https://blahol.com/

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    [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    More and more I’m finding things I want either aren’t on amazon or are buried under so many inferior products that they are hard to find. Earlier I was looking for geek themed ugly Christmas sweaters, and the ones on the first few pages of amazon results were absolute garbage. Found several viable suppliers elsewhere in no time.

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  • Once again capitalism has bred all sorts of innovation in the space!

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    So I just got a steam deck... A little birthday present to myself.

    My local microcenter sells nothing for it... Neither does best buy. And if best buy did I wouldn't over pay anyway at that failing store.

    So... Amazon it is. 40 bucks and two days later I have a silicone case, anti glare screen protector and a cheapo dock.

    I didn't want to get all that shit off amazon... It was just the most convenient place and in my case the only place.

    If anything amazon needs to crack down on these bs Chinese sellers.

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    [–] 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Amazon's product search is intentionally bad

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    [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe people will stop using Amazon?

    Nahhhh

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    [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Almost everything on Amazon is cheap trash, and they promote the hell out of all that trash instead of products of any quality. I am also so sick of the click funnels where you search for a specific item and they just give you pages full of knockoff trash as search results even if you go to a specific brand store. It's nonsense.

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    [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    It’s worse than when eBay peaked.

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