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Israel remains in Eurovision
(www.bbc.com)
If only Israelis had the capacity to feel shame
I understand that about half do. Unfortunately, like the US, they aren’t the half that count
82% of them are happy to expel all Gaza's Palestinian residents, that doesn't sound like people who experience shame for their governmeng killing ~40k civilian women and children over the last few years.
A further 56% favour expelling all Israeli citizens with Palestinian bloodlines and a lovely 47%..
agreed that "when conquering an enemy city, the Israel Defense Forces should act as the Israelites did in Jericho under Joshua's command – killing all its inhabitants." Sixty-five percent said they believed in the existence of a modern-day incarnation of Amalek, the Israelite biblical enemy whom God commanded to wipe out in Deuteronomy 25:19. Among those believers, 93 percent said the commandment to erase Amalek's memory remains relevant today.
I'm not seeing much conscience or shame in those numbers.
I’d like to know how Israelis as a whole respond to these questions, since this sounds like it surveyed only religious conservatives.
The nation was founded by and for religious extremists
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My understanding is it’s way less than half
They made a choice. Let's see how they handle the consequences
What consequences? That they won't win this year either?
Oh, you mean the EBU probably. One of the Big 5 leaving is really something. I can't imagine Spain leaving the EBU itself though.
Iceland, Belgium, and Portugal are likely to leave as well, with the Polish Culture minister calling for a boycott if Israel participates a few months ago. The more countries that drop, the more expensive it will be to participate for the remaining countries as well.
the more expensive it will be to participate for the remaining countries as well.
I don't think the boycotting countries will leave the EBU or stop paying for their membership.
No, but the participants still have to pay a lot towards the show. They don't just get to piggy back off of the host amd Big 5. There are participation fees that cover the EBU expenses. Those have to be covered in by the participation fees
The point of ESC is to get around 9 hours of content for much cheaper than broadcasters can normally do.
So for example, at the highest end of participation in the big 5, the BBC pays a fee of £300,000, and about the same again for production costs such as delegation hotels. That’s about the price of 2 hours’ worth of EastEnders. Per hour, its the cost of a mid-range game show.
In total, the fees reach around £5 million. The host nation’s broadcaster is then on the hook for the rest of the cost, which is usually an additional £8-18m.
One of the Big Five (they are the largest financial contributors) leaving is, financially, indeed something.
As the ESC is only one part of the EBU (yet the most prominent one for the public) beside sharing of media, news and technical collaboration, leaving the EBU completely over the israeli participation at the ESC would give that occassion way too much relevance.
leaving the EBU completely over the israeli participation at the ESC would give that occassion way too much relevance.
whilst i agree, i think it’s also important to acknowledge that non-participation in ESC isn’t about non-participation in ESC… it’s not like they’re not participating because they don’t like israel’s songs; it’s about a principal. if the decision was made about israel to do with ESC it says something about the EBUs values and how it’s being run
non-participation isn’t meant as a punishment, and it’s not even really about ESC: it’s meant to be a statement to the EBU as a whole: we don’t support this and won’t support anyone who does
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The fact that this was up for debate, the fact that there are countries that choose to boycott as a result, the fact that this is news: these are wins people. The cracks have formed and it's starting to buckle. It is now normal and mainstream to talk about boycotting the genocidal apartheid Israeli regime. Even the German apartheid-apoligist institutions are forced to say they respect the decisions of non-apologist ones. Don't take this as reason for cynicism and disappointment, it's quite the opposite! Apartheid South Africa didn't get boycotted, isolated and forced to recon with its crimes all at once, it was a process. KEEP PUSHING!
The main sponsor of the show, Moroccanoil, is an Israeli company. This was obvious.
Moroccan Oil is an Israeli company?
Yeah they make hair products.
rip Eurovision
1956-2026
good run.
Maybe not, the Olympics survived a genocide so maybe Eurovision will get through this somehow
Several genocides in fact
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The boycotting countries should stay in and sing about how israeli's are genocidal murderers.
Political songs are not allowed
Except for all those times when Israel made songs about heroically blowing up children
Can you name any examples of that?
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I hope more broadcasters drop out. Either it'll force their hand to expel all genocidal nations or make Eurovision a joke and viewership crashes.
Ireland, Netherlands, Spain, and Slovenia should make their own Eurovision
With hookers, and blackjack!
Forget about the euro vision and the blackjack
israel is NOT even in europe. seriously!
We have the same discussion every year and the European Broadcast Union is not restricted to countries in Europe.
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Cowards
Boooo!
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I think its great that countries are excluding themselves on this basis.
However, im not surprised that the contest has remained agnostic and that israel has not withdrawn.
They should have their own contest with blackjack and hookers
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