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[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago

On lemmygrad they were seriously talking about whether Gaben is a socialist.

[-] segfault11@hexbear.net 51 points 2 months ago

socialism is when you play games on linux

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 51 points 2 months ago

Socialism is when you play windows games with proton. Communism is when you play native Linux ports.

[-] surjomukhi@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago
[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Wow this socialism stuff sounds great

[-] jared@mander.xyz 12 points 2 months ago

It ain't bad.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 months ago

"Socialism is when capitalism" is an evergreen take

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

In socialism we would be on half life 7 or 8

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

Under communism you need a wiki to know which Half Life 7s are supposed to be sequels to the Half Life 6 you played because the abolition of intellectual property means we've abandoned the false idea that an official sequel to something from 20 years ago can exist when all the people who created it have moved on to different projects, or at least different parts of their lives.

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago
[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

But how am I supposed to know which media to enjoy without Disney telling me?

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

He's not though, what petty-bourgeoise nerd shit are they imbibing?

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

It's on the communism community if you want to do this to yourself.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

Nope I subjected my brain to enough worms today, thank you. I'll leave it to my imagination

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ex finance minister of Greece worked for him at one point and claimed he was a very misguided left anarchist in terms of politics

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Definitely not trusting the finance minister of Greece on anything

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

She is probably talking about Varoufakis

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

VANIS, NO

DON'T LET THE BILLIONAIRE MAKE YOU THINK 'YOU CAN FIX HIM'

[-] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

I'm positive she is talking about Yanis Varoufakis and he's worth listening to over most if not almost all other European politicians (a low bar I know).

He was loudly against forced austerity and I know him mostly for railing against technofeudalism and explaining to a "progressive" lib that China is not in fact the USA.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Holy shit he owned a lib with facts and logic

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[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

Yanis Varoufakis actually described Gabe/Valve as like unknowingly anarchist or something. It's in an interview on YouTube and I think he's wrong. He does this rhetorical thing where he describes capitalist enemies as way smarter than they are to end up with SuccDem conclusions.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Somewhat thoughtful people having critiques of actual existing capitalism is incredibly common no matter how aligned they are to capitalism and no matter how much they benefit from the current conditions. If Gaben has something interesting to say on the matter, even through Varoufakis I'm happy to read, I don't think that his position makes it impossible just unlikely.

Maybe we need to hand it to him that he is contend with his 1 new yacht per year lifestyle rather than pushing for becoming a trillionaire like most of the other well known American billionaires. Surprisingly well adjusted given his position.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Maybe we need to hand it to him that he is contend with his 1 new yacht per year lifestyle rather than pushing for becoming a trillionaire like most of the other well known American billionaires. Surprisingly well adjusted given his position.

As far as I'm concerned, if he's not out there funding Nazis and other right wing consent manufacturing mechanisms, then he's towards the bottom of the list of billionaires I want lined up for the guillotines. His name never comes up in this Epstein shit or anything otherwise political besides antitrust stuff. He sounds like he's just enjoying being a nerd with money. He can sit out in the ocean doing his video games, scuba diving, and other hobbies while we deal with the more pressing issues.

Though Steam Library's handling of sharing and licensing is an absolute pet peeve of mine. doggirl-growl

[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

He did it with Trump and the tariffs, for instance.

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

On lemmygrad they were seriously talking about whether Gaben is a socialist.

This can only be described as false slander.

A single person asked a question, not a crime, not a problem. People responded. No one argued he was a socialist. They were talking seriously. They usually talk in a serious tone. They were not seriously suggesting (made it the fuck up) that he was a socialist. There was analysis of for example private vs public companies, shitting on valve, discussion of Huawei and the larger economic picture.

You were there I think misunderstanding some things but anyways your description of it is false: (Ref: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9744686/7297089)

[-] jack@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

An extremely vaguely defined "cooperative" label is all it takes!

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

I would never formally believe he's ideologically a socialist based on all known informationabout him, but possibly a class traitor? And even then, "class traitor" is something he might do in the future, not something I'd say he currently is. Either way, critical support for the man who does good things.

And big time criticism for all the fucked up shit he's doing (normalizing child gambling addiction is probably all I know about).

[-] fox@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

Class traitor is still too generous imo, I honestly think he's pushing Linux so there's less future dependency on Microsoft

[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago
[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago
[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago
[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Thanks for the link. I don't think your summary of it was that accurate, it was just one user being silly, really.

I think if anything this is another demonstration of the dangers of revisionism causing a complete ideological rot, because someone makes excuses for one thing and then that thing, having been excused, is used as an excuse for another, and so on. It comes across as being a slippery slope fallacy on my part, I'm well aware, but I've seen people do this several times.

I also think that one commenter was at least half right about private companies, in that it's more possible for one to be "nice" (in scare quotes) than a publicly-traded company that is dragged around much more actively by speculative market forces due to being controlled by the bourgeoisie as a class, as they said. Doesn't change that Valve is still a capitalist entity and no more proof is needed of its robbery of workers than that abominable mega-yacht that Gabe got, which completely discredits the "nice guy" performance. He's literally just Bill Gates for g*mers.

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[-] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago

Valve directly enables the 3rd party betting sites for skin gambling etc, that and lootbox mechanics in Counter Strike etc directly target kids and are getting many addicted to gambling

I don't know of a good text source on this I'm sure there's some out there but this Coffezilla video Deception, Lies, and Valve does a great job of explaining how predatory Valve are and features some footage of Gabe(and its pretty short)

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

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biaoqing-copium Best case scenario, he's only doing this because he's expecting law makers to react (accelerationism).

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[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

trying and failing to do accelerationism because you wrongly thought the state has a red line on abusive business

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[-] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

What the fuck are these fuckers even doing on these behemoths?

I get the appeal of sailing a yacht around the Mediterranean but with the size of these juggernauts you probably can't even dock at most smaller harbors.

[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I can actually think of a rational purpose for Newell specifically, although it doesn't remotely justify the extravagance of his yacht. From what we know, he seems to be COVID-conscious:

https://www.pcgamer.com/court-rules-gabe-newell-must-appear-in-person-to-testify-in-steam-anti-trust-lawsuit/

Newell had previously requested a remote deposition, saying "that he is at risk of developing a serious illness were he to contract Covid-19," according to the filing, and thus "has structured his life to minimize exposure to possible Covid-19 transmission. According to Mr. Newell, an in-person deposition, even with the health measures which plaintiffs propose, is not consistent with those safeguards."

He has indeed taken steps to avoid exposure to the pandemic: Newell famously spent a good chunk of time through 2020-21 in New Zealand as a "Covid refugee." The court rejected his argument, however, saying that while Covid-19 presents "continued public health risks," Newell failed to present any substantial evidence that he's at greater risk of serious illness arising from Covid-19 than the general public—and even if he had, Wolfire's lawyers "would be unduly prejudiced by a remote deposition given Mr. Newell's unique knowledge as to defendant's business strategies."

To accommodate Newell's concerns, the court ordered that everyone in the courtroom must wear an N95 or compatible mask during his appearance, although Newell himself will have to remove his mask when answering questions.

Speaking from personal experience, one of the greatest obstacles to creating a COVID-safe bubble is trust. The only person I trust to fastidiously take precautions is, mercifully, also my roommate. But I've heard so many horror stories of people infected by family and "friends" who lied about precautions and/or test results. From the perspective of a billionaire who has close contact with a bunch of staff (cleaning, cooking, administrative, etc.), there's just no way that you can trust (or legally enforce) that people are taking precautions when they go home at the end of the day. But what if they didn't go home? And what if you could ensure this, beyond a shadow of a doubt? Therein lies the appeal of living on a yacht. You do one set of PCR tests when the crew boards, and then you can relax as long as you're at sea.

To be clear, I am in no way defending the purchase of such a grotesquely expensive yacht. He's apparently involved in some research on technology for instant detection of airborne pathogens, but detection is sort of beside the point at this stage...for the rest of use who DON'T live on megayachts, we need to clean the air. He could, for example, equip all King County (Seattle) public schools with top-of-the-line ventilation and filtration systems, or set up a matching grant system to fund programs like that across the country, fund (and perhaps more importantly, publicize) research to show how these measures drastically reduce disease burden and improve student outcomes. He could use his wealth and influence to campaign for laws to require monitoring of air quality and enforcement of indoor air quality standards. But no, he's content to use his massive wealth to insulate him, individually, from the consequences of the COVID pandemic, and let the rest of us fend for ourselves. I can at least understand it (unlike billionaires crashing out on Twitter, which truly boggles the mind), but that doesn't make it defensive.


As for people not named Gabe Newell...some combination of dickwaving and horrifying criminal acts, I'd guess.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

He needs to have more than one yacht if he's that distrusting. He would need his main yacht that never contacts with the outside world on top of a quarantine yacht that only contacts with the outside world for food and fuel at select times and only makes contact with the main yacht after two weeks have passed since contact with the outside world.

[-] Blep@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

They have second yacht for the help

[-] avoid_the_noid@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

What's with the ultra-rich and yachts? Like why is that the go-to for these people? My mind immediately goes to them doing illegal acts (read: sexpest shit) on international waters, but I mean, there's gotta be something else, yeah?

[-] daniyeg@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

well because when you have that much money it's really hard to spend it, and big boats are expensive. sports cars are relatively cheap and collecting them is for your star actors and low tier CEOs. islands are too expensive (i don't think they sell greek islands anymore) so only pedophiles that give "tax advice" can afford them. yachts are the right amount of expensive, between 100 mil to a couple of billions. at that range you can comfortably afford them, but they are not small enough to just be a drop in the bucket.

plus big boat cool. you can travel around the world and have the chance to pay filipino sailors fuck all for all their trouble. did you hear about the submarine garage? so awesome.

[-] lib1@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Conspicuous consumption? Differing boat cultures being common class signifiers (deep sea vs fresh water)? Also the sex pest stuff you said? The fact that the bourgeoisie are the only international class?

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

It's essentially making their own private mobile resort.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

A mansion with everything you could ever want is "only" tens of millions of dollars, so any billionaire has as many as they could want. But you you want to go to different cities for different events, and settling in to a new place is such a hassle. You ever spend a week on vacation or at a relative's house and, for the first few days, every time you wake up in the middle of the night to take a piss, you have to remember where you are and where the bathroom is?

What if you were so rich that this is the biggest remaining problem in your life? Wouldn't it be nice if you just had one mansion set up the way you like, and could take it with you?

(Nobody should have this much fucking money.)

[-] DogThatWentGorp@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

If I wanted to spend $500mil I would simply feed people or something. Jesus fucking Christ.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Still think that if George Lucas hadn't appeared in Epstein logs, he could probably take the title of "least shitty ghoul billionaire." For being a billionaire, Lucas has done surprisingly little harm. He mostly made money off of merchandising and IP, meaning his wealth is mostly stolen surplus value from sweatshop workers. But he didn't really use his misbegotten wealth for anything truly ghoulish (outside of any alleged activities with Epstein of course). I guess you could say Lucas is the reason why we're stuck with Marvel slop and capeshit, but there were a lot of stones laid on the road to Marvel slop, and I wouldn't characterize his films as Marvel slop.

Newell as far I know doesn't have any connection with Epstein whatsoever, but he has profited immensely off of exploiting people's gambling addictions. He not only steals surplus value from his workers but takes a cut from any dev who puts their game on Steam.

[-] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Gambling addictions that in many cases were probably the result of peddling gambling to children.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"If you save 1 million per year you only need to save 500 years."

Just tax these people.
The greenhouse gasses & pollution alone demand it, if societal or governance reasons alone aren't enough.

Leviathan is 111 meters long and the 50th largest yacht in the world. Onkenhout says the diesel-electric vessel is the "most comfortable yacht ever designed" by the company (you'd hope so!) and a feat of custom engineering.

You want cables? This baby's got 280 miles of them, powering everything from an on-board hospital (with live-in nurse), air conditioning, satellites, cavernous garages for tenders (small boats, not chicken) and submarines, and of course entertainment systems.

We're not done, not even close. Leviathan has two gyms, a 250 square meter beach club with a spa and bar, diving platforms, and whatever a "dedicated drinks pantry" is. The cherry on top: a room with 15 of the finest gaming PCs ever assembled.

Guests: 26
Cabins: 11
Crew: 37
Length: 111m
Beam: 17.8m
GT: 4,970 GT

pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-caps-off-steam-machine-week-by-taking-delivery-of-a-new-usd500-million-superyacht
boatinternational.com/oceanco-y722-superyacht-leviathan
yachtbuyer.com/oceanco-y722-364-oceanco#

... and it literally has exterior animated RGB lighting throughout the full length of the ship, bcs ofc it does.

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