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“Where does that leave citizens? It may be a penny, but that adds up,” said Moss, 29. She paid $8.23 for her orange chicken and cream cheese ragoons with a debit card.

For sure, it does... but this person already had 1 solution already in her wallet! Also, at most you'll pay $0.02 extra for something. This equates to an extra $7.30 if you purchase this thing every day for a year! This also ignores that some things will be as much as $0.03 cheaper.

America last phased out a coin roughly 170 years ago, when it got rid of the half-cent. “We don’t have a lot of experience with this,” said Steve Kenneally, the association’s senior vice president of payments.

... But Canada does. They did this in 2013. I was actually there when they did it, and it appeared to go pretty smoothly. Almost like they had a plan rather than having to quickly react to the whims of a broken clock one of the times it was actually right.

There's also a lot about companies training cashiers on "how to round," which reminds me of the George Carlin quote about the average person's intelligence. Also, plenty about commercial groups "begging" the federal government to help them with the transition and being met with silence. This is probably the most important part of the article.

The US is finally doing something it should have done decades ago, and it's choosing to do it in the most chaotic way possible. Rather than looking at what other countries have done and forming a plan, they're acting like the edict itself, along with no longer minting pennies or accepting deposited ones, is all the government should have to do. Is this the "small government" utopia conservatives dream about!? One that tells states and businesses, "We've done the minimum. You figure out the rest amongst yourselves." Seems like it's going great so far!

Overall, the article should've been more about how terribly this is being enacted, and less about people not being able to do basic math. Especially disappointing since the original source is WSJ (and I know who owns it - it's still a mostly business-oriented publication).

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[-] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 25 points 6 months ago

would it not be for CASH only?

pay debit or credit and they can easily still charge the exact amount with no rounding..

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yep, that's how it works here in Canada. (We yeeted our penny in 2012.)

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago

The past tense of yeet is yote

[-] Tujio@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Hence why when the pantheon threw out the frost giants, they named the place they ended up "yotenheim."

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

here in Canada.

yeeted

En Français SVP

Isn't there an entire government office in Quebec that comes up with new words en Français for Québécois French? Do they have a contribution for "yeet" yet?

[-] Evkob@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

Sadly, l'OQLF does not have a suggestion for yeet as of yet.

[-] tehBishop@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

"Garoché"?

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

No clue, although it wouldn't surprise me if they did.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago

I think the emphasis of the article was more on people who resent having to spend two more cents in any circumstances than it is on people who can't round.

[-] lividweasel@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that article is full of misplaced outrage. I got a kick out of:

Others wondered what would happen to tips if people had less change to leave on tables.

Having admittedly not worked in the service industry, I would interpret tipping with pennies to be a pretty blatant insult.

[-] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It’s averaged out, the next purchase you make will likely be .02 and rounded down saving you money.

In fact, you can game this to MAKE money too!

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you think companies won't immediately restructure their pricing to make sure everything get rounded up, you will be sadly mistaken.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

How do you imagine that would actually work?

[-] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Than pay debit.

And how do you suppose that works with taxes?

[-] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

do americans still pay mostly in cash? we haven't had the penny since like 2012 here in Canada and...it wasn't a big deal at all because no one paid with pennies anyways. if something is $8.23 as stated then you just pay $8.25 if you're paying cash. But hell most people just pay debit or credit these days to the point where most CSRs just assume you're paying debit and if you whip out cash it confuses them and they have to cancel the debit machine.

I can't even remember the last time I drew out cash or had it on me.

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I pay in cash as much as possible because fuck the card companies making money off of every transaction and fuck people tracking my spending habits

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 1 points 6 months ago

and fuck people tracking my spending habits

Jokes on you, cash is also tracked nowadays, at least here in Germany

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Bill-tracking-Increasing-cash-tracking-worries-data-protectionists-10481696.html

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I hate everything

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 6 months ago

I pay in cash for a handful of things. Pizza from the corner shop. Tips for the bartenders at my local bars. Sometimes food from the smaller groceries.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

It wasn't a big deal, but there was a lot of loud, stupid people making a lot of loud, stupid noises about it when it happened.

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

They should be forced to round DOWN. Holy shit, the amount of people who don't see anything wrong with rounding up makes me weep for humanity.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip -4 points 6 months ago

Wendy’s has signs up that they’ll be rounding DOWN to the nearest nickel. So expect all Wendy’s prices to work out to $x.04 from now on 😠

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Rounding down... As in cheaper for you.

$9.99 becomes $9.95.

$9.94 -> $9.90

What are you upset about?

As a Canadian that first experienced not having to deal with pennies during a visit to Australia, then had Canada follow up with removing our own pennies; I absolutely love this change. Far less bulky coins to carry around/manage, which is so much nicer for both the consumer and cashiers.

Now we just need to include taxes on the sticker price so you can actually add up prices reasonably as you shop, and not be surprised by the added taxes that's a PITA to calculate as you go. Australia, you grab 5 items that each say '$5' on them, you pay exactly $25 at the till, no extra math involved.

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