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Want to wade into the sandy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago

in terms of zitron fallout, there used to be a comment section at his blog, it's not there anymore

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[-] o7___o7@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There's a Charles Stross novel from 2018 where cultists take over the US government and begin a project to build enough computational capacity to summon horrors from beyond space-time (in space). It's called The Labyrinth Index and it's very good!

So anyway, this happened:

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-isnt-yet-working-toward-an-ipo-cfo-says-58037472

Also, this:

https://bsky.app/profile/edzitron.com/post/3m4wrv2xak22x

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What's a government backstop, and does it happen often? It sounds like they're asking for a preemptive bail-out.

I checked the rest of Zitron's feed before posting and its weirder in context:

Interview:

She also hinted at a role for the US government "to backstop the guarantee that allows the financing to happen", but did not elaborate on how this would work.

Later at the jobsite:

I want to clarify my comments earlier today. OpenAI is not seeking a government backstop for our infrastructure commitments. I used the word "backstop" and it mudlled the point.

She then proceeds to explain she just meant that the government 'should play its part'.

Zitron says she might have been testing the waters, or its just the cherry on top of an interview where she said plenty of bizzare shit

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[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago

Checked back on the smoldering dumpster fire that is Framework today.

Linux Community Ambassadors Tommi and Fraxinas have jumped ship, sneering the company's fash turn on the way out.

[-] Seminar2250@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago

I just saw this. I sent an email to Framework a few days ago asking if they would delete my account and letting them know this was the reason.

[-] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago

Hey it's the character.ai guy, a.k.a. first confirmed AI assisted kid suicide guy.

I do not believe G-d puts people in the wrong bodies.

Shazeer also said people who criticized the removal of the AI Principles were anti-Semitic.

Kind of feel the transphobia is barely scratching the surface of all the things wrong with this person.

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[-] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago

More flaming dog poop appeared on my doorstep, in the form of this article published in VentureBeat. VB appears to be an online magazine for publishing silicon valley propaganda, focused on boosting startups, so it's no surprise that they'd publish this drivel sent in by some guy trying to parlay prompting into writing.

Point:

Apple argues that LRMs must not be able to think; instead, they just perform pattern-matching. The evidence they provided is that LRMs with chain-of-thought (CoT) reasoning are unable to carry on the calculation using a predefined algorithm as the p,roblem grows.

Counterpoint, by the author:

This is a fundamentally flawed argument. If you ask a human who already knows the algorithm for solving the Tower-of-Hanoi problem to solve a Tower-of-Hanoi problem with twenty discs, for instance, he or she would almost certainly fail to do so. By that logic, we must conclude that humans cannot think either.

As someone who already knows the algorithm for solving the ToH problem, I wouldn't "fail" at solving the one with twenty discs so much as I'd know that the algorithm is exponential in the number of discs and you'd need 2^20 - 1 (1048575) steps to do it, and refuse to indulge your shit reasoning.

However, this argument only points to the idea that there is no evidence that LRMs cannot think.

Argument proven stupid, so we're back to square one on this, buddy.

This alone certainly does not mean that LRMs can think — just that we cannot be sure they don’t.

Ah yes, some of my favorite GOP turns of phrases, "no unknown unknowns" + "big if true".

[-] Seminar2250@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago

This is a fundamentally flawed argument. If you ask a human who already knows the algorithm for solving the Tower-of-Hanoi problem to solve a Tower-of-Hanoi problem with twenty discs, for instance, he or she would almost certainly fail to do so. By that logic, we must conclude that humans cannot think either.

"I don't understand recursion" energy

[-] rook@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago
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[-] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is a joke, right?

E: my enshittified brain thought that this was some kind of AI enabled smart ring that also told the time. This is kinda fun actually, tho I would never get one

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[-] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago

Guys, the reason we don't see working AI out in the world is because all the "frontier AI labs" are keeping the good stuff for themselves!! It's totally not that this shit doesn't work

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/5Zq9FKfYzcxcwCoRJ/ai-hasn-t-seen-widespread-adoption-because-the-labs-are

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[-] Seminar2250@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago

Like a complete fucking idiot, I paid for two years of protonmail right before discovering they are fascists. I would like to move to another provider. I have until August. I have been considering Forward Email. Anyone have thoughts on this provider or recommendations?

[-] DonPiano@feddit.org 8 points 5 months ago

I like mailbox.org so far with their servers in Germany

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago

haven't seen them before, but a short tour around their infra/systems providers isn't particularly exciting - depending on both your threat model and what-you-want in a vendor

some parts/pages do provide some detail in encouraging depth, but I'd have to do a much more full review to give you a good answer

there's been a couple of "where email" threads over the last year, tuta's still one of the top options on that but you can check the threads if you want to see some of the other promising options

[-] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago

I am using posteo.de. They are good but I dislike that they have no option for using your own domain which makes switching provider really annoying. If I had to choose a provider again I would probably go with mailbox.org.

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[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago

Found a high quality sneer of OpenAI from Los Angeles Review of Books: Literature Is Not a Vibe: On ChatGPT and the Humanities

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