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Trump vows to expand Muslim ban and bar Gaza refugees if he wins presidency (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago

I think we can all agree that the 2 million food insecure, poverty stricken residents of the Gaza strip have had it too good when it comes to their ability to immigrate to the United States the same way literally anyone else does, if they can get past the Israeli blockade and actually reach America. A much needed policy proposal to take them down a peg.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Trump man, this shit is old, what haven't we heard, get some fresh material this shit is a rerun.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

Muslim Ban 2: Racist Boogaloo

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's simple hate...he only has hate and self serving. Think about it, it's all different flavors of hate.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Does he even hate? I feel like he doesn't think about other people long enough to actually hate anyone. He just says what he thinks will get his supporters all lathered up, and if that means being a bigot, then by golly he's going to be a bigot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fair point....I guess in reality he is using hate in various flavors to rile up folks who are hateful, but as for Trump he is just using hate like he uses everything else.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Not that that's better in any way. Functionally, hate is hate. Whether he believes it in his heart, or merely regurgitates it because he likes bigots, it doesn't make him a better person either way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Yup. He's a pathological liar who likely doesn't have an actual personality.

Also, you know, the advanced dementia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Isn't there a trial happening today - got to get some "filler stories" in the news to distract people.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Supporting Israel no matter what and giving taxes breaks to the wealthy...

Just a few things Republicans and "moderate" Dems always tend to agree on

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

What was the last tax break the Dems passed for the wealthy?

Genuinely, I'm curious. The last major tax revision was under Trump. Under Biden, new taxes have generally been targeted at corporations and the wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The only tax changes that have happened since Biden was elected were part of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Aid Act of 2018. I'm not too familiar with business taxes but individual is how I make my money.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

The only tax changes that have happened since Biden

Exactly.

Republicans lower taxes on the wealthy, and moderate Dems do t raise it.

It's "two steps back, then just stand still"

So over time, it keeps getting lower and lower.

Thanks for specifying what I meant!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eat shit, die.

Ps: Oh wops I forgot the first coma oh well like this we can learn why punctuation is important.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eat shit and live. Just don't let him breathe on me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

He's doing that already though, that's like his whole thing

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Stop giving him a platform ffs. Who cares what he says? Move on.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He is almost certain to be the Republican candidate for president. Ignore your enemy at your peril because he could be president and it won't be possible to ignore him then.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

There's a line between "keeping an eye on your enemy" and giving them a free permanent platform and we keep doing the latter. His whole strategy is saying deranged, reactionary things just to stay on the front page rent free and this is playing into that. This is a man who lies constantly, doesn't believe in what he says, and will either forget about it a week later or deny it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you worried this will bring more support to him?

I feel that the more people know about him then the less they will support him/the more will go out to vote against him

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

He was the president, everyone knows him. I'm saying stop giving him a platform and focus on things about him that do matter that aren't under his control that don't play into his playbook.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You under estimate voter apathy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

By his loyal followers? I'm well aware. But I'm also aware that normalizing this kind of speech in the media by blasting it constantly has shifted Americans' views on what kind of rhetoric is acceptable in this political climate.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Don’t forget to vote next year, the options are pro-Israel and PRO-ISRAEL!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But seriously don't forget to vote, because Republicans are fucking Nazis who will dismantle all pretense of democracy and civil rights if given the opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

There are different versions of Israel.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's going to be hard to do in Federal custody.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Judge Cannon is doing her level fucking best to drag her feet until Trump can pardon himself, and then she can Jim the camera, shrug, and say "hey, that's justice for you"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who actually takes seriously the idea that self-pardoning is even a thing? I don't think it should ever be mentioned without pointing out what a batshit crazy idea it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok I really hate being that guy but if this happens you know that someone is going to make the argument that it is technically not in the writing. Especially since this is a common conservative trick, text only.

and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

Nothing in there about self-pardoning. Watch as they try this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Oh I'm sure they will, but I think anyone engaging with the issue in good faith will conclude that a it's implicit in the word "pardon" that it's something you do for someone else, and the authors of the Constitution would have forbidden self pardoning if it had occurred to them that anyone would twist their words in that particular way.

I just don't want the idea to become normalized, because then people will start to just accept it without thinking about whether it makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Also, he will build a wall, and the Palestinians will pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good thing he’ll have no say in the matter.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I recall saying the same in 2016.

Don’t get complacent, get out and vote.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

After the debate between him and Clinton I was sure he was going to win

He was just so far ahead of her in that