submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
 

Well I already have jellyfin running in a container, just have to figure out how to get mum's TV to work with it I guess

log in on a local IP and not the network name and it's working again. but I'll be moving to jellyfin from now

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[+] 265 points 11 months ago (59 children)
  • [–] 46 points 11 months ago (34 children)

    Is there something better than jellyfin? I've been using it for a little over a year, and it works for the most part, but clients are often pretty buggy (especially on apple apple devices)

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  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago (18 children)

    Have you tried the third party ones? I've seen recommendations for Swiftfin

    https://github.com/jellyfin/Swiftfin

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (17 children)

    Yeah that's the one I'm using on our appleTV, it's buggy as hell. "Continue" show often doesn't work and picks an episode that I've watched long ago and not the next in line, often never updating it despite watching several episode over several weeks. Aftee Pausing a show or movie and closing the app, if you want to continue from where you left off, well that doesn't work consistently either, usually it will just restart from the beginning. Switching language on shows pretty much doesn't work at all, it will either never change from default audio language, or use an entirely different language than the one picked from the list.

    All these things work perfectly fine from a browser or official app on android.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I mostly use Infuse on the Apple TV and Streamyfin on the iPhone.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I can't say I've given Jellyfin a proper try (as in using it and the clients exclusively for a long period) but we have been using Emby for quite a while before I knew it existed.

    If I'm not mistaken Jellyfin is actually a fork of Emby so they're pretty similar, but one is a bit older.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    If I'm not mistaken Jellyfin is actually a fork of Emby so they're pretty similar, but one is a bit older.

    Jellyfin forked from Emby in 2018 when Emby chose to switch to a closed-source model. Because of this, there are many similarities, but the projects continue to become increasingly different from one another as time goes on.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I did try and preempt that in my comment - but it's hard to switch from plex when there are 5 other people with everything all configured and history etc

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (13 children)

    I wanted to move to Jellyfin, but there isn't an app for it on the LG WebOS library like there is for Plex, so I wouldn't be able to watch stuff on my TV, which sadly makes it useless for me :-(

    I don't have the money to be going out and buying extra add-ons for my TV to watch stuff either, sadly. So, Plex it is for now!

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Root your TV and install the homebrew channel on it.

    Yes, this is real.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    The Homebrew Channel for LG WebOS is got three pieces of absolutely essential software:

    A YouTube app modified with built in ad blocking and sponsor blocking. The Jellyfin app. The Moonlight app.

    With these three plus the toggle to block system updates your TV gets 1000% better for free.

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    [–] 100 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (26 children)

    Remember when Plex tried to sell you a subscription to use outdated versions of open source game console emulators?

    Plex wants to be a profit-driven company, but their business model is piracy. They'll squeeze you for subscriptions, while making your experience worse to try and broker a peace deal with content owners.

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    [–] 74 points 11 months ago (9 children)
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    [–] 56 points 11 months ago

    So glad I installed jellyfin years ago and never bothered to set up Plex.

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  • [–] 53 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I got the Plex lifetime pass over 10 years ago for pretty cheap and Plex has served me well over the years. But it's just so damn bloated now and the biggest recent change to their android app is atrocious. The app is so laggy and slow now. And downloading movies to watch locally on a tablet is just painful.

    So I decided to start experimenting with Jellyfin this month and I am blown away at how fast and snappy everything is. It still isn't as refined as Plex but there's something to be said about privacy and using FOSS apps.

    I'll be using Jellyfin going forward now.

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    [–] 44 points 11 months ago* (20 children)

    I know it's fashionable to shit on Plex here, but OP either has his server misconfigured or is just trying to stir the pot:

    https://support.plex.tv/articles/202526943-plex-free-vs-paid/

    Free to Use: Video (movies & TV) streaming of personal content on the same local network as the Plex Media Server

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    Right, the $2 is to use the relay service, which costs Plex bandwidth. They can't just do it free for everyone forever, bandwidth costs money.

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    [–] 39 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Longtime lifetime Plex Pass holder here.

    FOSS is important. Having control over how you use your own hardware and files is important.

    But even if none of that mattered, once I actually used Jellyfin for a few days the snappy bloat-free feel of it won me over. Switching between Plex and Jellyfin felt like switching between windows and linux.

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    [–] 31 points 11 months ago (27 children)

    Ah the weekly "Plex should be entirely free even though it's commercial software!"

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  • [–] 37 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Plex is entirely free and completely local, but only if you don’t use the features that make it so convenient (the relay server they offer, authentication and authorization, etc). Things I’m pretty sure jellyfin doesn’t provide at all. If people spent half the time reading as they do trying to convince people to get angry at optional features then maybe we wouldn’t have so many posts like this.

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  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Jellyfin does offer authentication and authorization. Relay can be done via nginx iirc?

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    The authentication is lacking 2fa and has a half hearted attempt at fail2ban

    If you try to properly implement either of those, the standard device clients won't work anymore.

    Plex provides default SSL.

    The relay is actually a bit more useful.

    You can be on a carrier grade NAT with no real external IP.

    It's more akin to running a VPS somewhere and SSH tunneling your home server through it.

    They also cache* the entirety of the TVDB and EPG Services.

    I'm not sore about most of this with jellyfin, and I am trying to primarily use it, but I really miss some of the features. But realistically, adding 2FA to the clients would be a huge benefit. trying to replace 2FA with wish.com fail2ban feels particularly dirty.

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    [–] 26 points 11 months ago* (16 children)

    y'all don't use jellyfin???

    for music: navidrome

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    [–] 24 points 11 months ago* (11 children)

    Something that's getting glossed over in these comments is the ability to easily watch or listen to friends' media.

    I have my own library with about 1k movies, a bunch of anime and TV, and 10k albums. But I have like 6 or 7 friends with libraries even larger. My one friend has 37k albums, they all have thousands of movies I never even heard of, etc. It really makes it like my own mini streaming service, and I love throwing on a huge music library on shuffle via plexamp while driving to/from work.

    I paid like $70 for a lifetime pass years ago, so I'm along for the ride I guess. I really rely on the music aspect of it, I haven't had a spotify subscription in like 7 years.

    I know they changed a lot lately, and particularly what pisses me off is how vague and how they intentionally obfuscate how their model works now. I have friends that for years used my library, and recently have been like "I saw Plex started charging now so I stopped using it" and I have to be like "no it's still free because I have a lifetime pass". It's definitely just to trick people into getting monthly subscriptions.

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    [–] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Imagine wanting to charge to stream your own media with your own hardware and resources... Hey wait, we don't have to imagine it anymore, Plex already did it.

    I forgot as I am a Plex Pass Lifetime user, and oh boy I'll be sure to milk that out (actually after all these years I think I have already done that) just to keep being an annoying stat for Plex and nothing else 🤣

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    [–] 21 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Plex recently switched the remote watch thing to be behind a paywall. If your PC/App was also on the same local network it would probably work.

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    [–] 20 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    I know Plex is a business that has to make money, but if I hadn't bought a lifetime pass for $50 a decade ago, I'd have dropped them at this point.

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    [+] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
    [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    Aaaand that’s one of the reasons why I got rid of Plex. “Bought” it, then they found some other feature to paywall. Bought that, then another feature. Then it stopped playing files of certain extensions through chromecast. Fuck that. Put together Jellyfin and moved my collection over. Zero trouble since.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    I jumped ship early on. They didn't include skipping intros (or removed the plugin or the capability to use plugins, I don't remember).

    Went to Jellyfin, took like 2 hours to figure out what's different. I don't even remember, are there any features worth it staying on Plex? At least I'm not missing anything.

    Also for watch together you start a watch group and can watch a show episode for episode. Instead of having to open each episode separately and having everyone join again (but maybe Plex fixed this already, I wouldn't know).

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    [–] 15 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Fellow jellyfin user 😍

    For a perfect pairing, Jellyfin + Tailscale.

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    [–] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I don't get this? is this because I have a lifetime pass?

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    [–] 10 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    its pretty fucking easy to use jellyfin on any device after you have it set up. most platforms have it in their app store.

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