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FFS Plex, the server is on my local network (no.lastname.nz)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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Well I already have jellyfin running in a container, just have to figure out how to get mum's TV to work with it I guess

log in on a local IP and not the network name and it's working again. but I'll be moving to jellyfin from now

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[–] 44 points 11 months ago* (20 children)

I know it's fashionable to shit on Plex here, but OP either has his server misconfigured or is just trying to stir the pot:

https://support.plex.tv/articles/202526943-plex-free-vs-paid/

Free to Use: Video (movies & TV) streaming of personal content on the same local network as the Plex Media Server

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    Right, the $2 is to use the relay service, which costs Plex bandwidth. They can't just do it free for everyone forever, bandwidth costs money.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    They charge for remote access whether it's through their relay service or not, and you can't opt out of fallback to their relay service.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (8 children)

    If you connect with the IP address it doesn't charge you. You can use ZeroTier to connect from anywhere.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    That's not quite the same - that gives you the appearance of being a local device, which is enough to fool the restriction.

    Their policy and technology enforcement is to charge for remote access, not relaying.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (6 children)

    Can you give me an example of remote direct access that would be blocked? You can use nginx to forward your public IP to your Plex and it's fine, you can forward ports directly on your router and connect to your public IP, you can use a VPN to connect from a different network; what are they limiting? It's the same hurdle you have to overcome with Jellyfin. Relays are convenient, but they also cost money.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Yes, however using the relay is not a prerequisite to being required to pay for a Plex subscription. That is what he is trying to say.

    I can run Plex on the open internet and not use their relay at all, however if the IP of the viewer is not an interal IP on the same subnet as Plex (I assume the same subnet is required) then you'll be greeted with the Plex paywall.

    You are absolutely correct that it costs money to run a relay, but the relay has nothing to directly do with the paywall.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (3 children)

    That isn't how it used to work.

    Why would they care what subnet the request is coming from? That's wack.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Correct. Remote streaming used to be free. That changed...in April? I don't remember the exact date but it was announced earlier this year and has been slowly rolling out. Now you either have to have a Plex pass for your server or each user who wants to remote stream has to pay for a remote watching subscription and show in OPs screenshot.

    There are of course ways to get around this such as all your users being on a VPN so as far as Plex can see its "internal". I suppose if you use a reverse proxy but didn't pass X-forwarded-for headers then that may get around it as well? I never messed with it as I was looking for an excuse to dump Plex anyway. Now I'm finally jellyfin only.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    That makes sense. I've only hosted Plex through a proxy or VPN anyway for networking and security reasons, but it's pretty shitty to force it just out of greed.

    I am also planning to move to JellyFin, but more out of open source fanaticism than financial reasons.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Yeah I didnt abandon Plex because I couldn't afford it. I have a number of gripes with plex but as long as it remained free I had no strong motivated to get rid of it. Now that I would have to pay though I have no interest in keeping it around. I am quite happy with jellyfin even if it may lack polish on some of its facets and I regularly accept inconvenience to uphold my own operating philosphies.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Yes, but they're still sending emails to people even when it doesn't apply. I had a Plex pass and still all of my users received emails and freaked out. They're trying to trick people into thinking they need to pay, that's the asshole move here.

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