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[–] 171 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Even if this shooter is identified as a hardcore deep red republican they will still blame democrats, immigrants, and LGBTQ+

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    motherfucker could've died of a ruptured appendix and they'd still probably claim Bill Gates remote-detonated a microchip in his bloodstream to do it

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's what they claimed about the Trump shooter, and the guy who assassinated the officials in Minnesota. Definitely a pattern that they're not going to deviate from.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Or their accusations against antifa in 2020 and before after they stood up to their aspiring Brown / black shirt paramilitaries in training. They're trying to go full Nazi, only there incompetence and misunderstanding has stopped them as of yet.

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    [+] 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
    [–] 71 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The fact that he was the one that broke the news before all major media, and the fact that he’s doing his level best to railroad the narrative, makes me more and more suspicious that the whole fucking thing was orchestrated.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If that were true, I doubt they'd off Charlie Kirk, he's too valuable. He was essentially the replacement for Rush Limbaugh, and would be their prime recruiter and indoctrinator for the next several decades. Now they have to figure out a new recruiter.

    Whoever did this was thinking very strategically. I like it.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No, now they have a martyr. Maybe it was a DIY martyr, is my point. Charlie Kirk as a martyr for their cause is probably going to be more of a powerful and flexible thing long-term than Charlie Kirk as a psychopathic fascist influencer.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I really really think people over estimate the power of martyrdom.

    Do you know who Fred Hampton was? If not, proves my point. I think most people don't know who he was, and he definitely would have done more for the world if he hasn't been assassinated.

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  • Hampton was black, and was assassinated when the government was kinda-sorta actively trying to tamp down on civil rights.

    Kirk was white, and was assassinated when the government was kinda-sorta actively trying to stir up white suprematist and fascist sentiment.

    They are not analogous situations.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is the correct headline. Why is the rest of the media having so much trouble?

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Since the president kid toucher is being wreckless, guess I should to.

    Kirk died due to the epstein files. You fire up a bunch of crazy people about pedos being everywhere. Drinking blood and keeping kids in pizza basements. Then you say, "I'm done talking about Epstein." How did you think people will react?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/charlie-kirk-trump-epstein-call-b2788906.html

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Did anyone seriously expect him to do anything other than to use a murder for political gain? When has he ever shown that he is anything other than a contemptable piece of dog shit?

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    [–] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    So we all know the shooter is going to be maga, right?

    Edit: called it.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Conspiracy is that Trump had him killed so he can ramp up his military dictatorship.

    Also they say that the video of Trump is AI amd was posted before it was even announced Kirk was dead.

    The the fact high-powered rifle at long distance. Yeah I can almost buy into it.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    I don't want to yuck your yums, since it's sort of a subjective call, but I wouldn't necessarily call 200 meters a "long distance" shot. It's not close range, but hitting a mostly stationary human sized target at that distance is, if not "easy", certainly achievable with a minimal amount of firearms experience. I think this holds true even without the assistance of scopes or other optics. For reference, basic rifle marksmanship qualification for the armed forces has you taking on targets out to 300 meters with iron sights, and, despite never firing a weapon prior to basic training, I was able to consistently hit the 200 meter targets (though beyond that range was a coin flip)

    Furthermore, calling the weapon a high-powered rifle is, to some extent, redundant. Again, it's subjective, but pretty much any firearm which fires rifle caliber ammunition is going to be by default "high-powered", unless it's .22LR. That's the only rifle cartridge I can think of that is commonly available that would not qualify as "high-powered" by a reasonable definition.

    The only reason I bring up this little bit of pedantry is because, as you mentioned in your post, calling it a "long distance shot with a high powered rifle" leads the listener towards certain conclusions that are not well-founded at this juncture. It's not inaccurate or untruthful, but I do think it leaves out relevant context.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The the fact high-powered rifle at long distance

    That's not that amazing, plenty of people hunt or target shoot and get good. The suspect part to me is the shooter escaping

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago

    Anyone surprised that Trump makes statements based on a complete lack of evidence? He will surely use it for propaganda and whatever else is yet to come…

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm done playing nice. Charlie Kirk was human garbage and I'm glad he's dead. I can only hope more people like him are dealt with appropriately. People like him are here only to destroy society and we've let them get on for far too long. Yup, I know I'm a pig, but at least I'm not a fascist.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Charlie Kirk became the acceptable loss he believed in. The best way to respect his passing is to ensure that acceptable losses everywhere are the people that believe in acceptable losses.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    More likely it’s Trump trying to get people to forget the Epstein files. Seriously, the man will generate or hijack any outrageous issue for his own short term goals.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Duh no shit, of course. This was always going to happen, they were always going to blame the left because that is the playbook for EVERYTHING.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Release Epstein files

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  • [+] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Conspiracy time: Charlie Kirk has been sacrificed by his own political party. It's a false flag to blame the "radical left", and no suspect will ever actually be identified. It makes democratic politicians continue to look out of touch as they condemn "political violence" across the board. And of course, it distracts all the lovely people demanding access to THE EPSTEIN FILES. Stay focused, everyone 🙂

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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago*

    Never let a crisis go to waste. — Machiavellian leaders

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Orange Shitbasket uses a person's death to distract his involvement in raping little children.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If they don't find the actual sbooter fast enough, he will send in the National Guard and/or find a patsy.

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Aaaand there we go, right on cue, and exactly as expected

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Got to get the narrative they want out into the media before anything comes to light that goes against it.

    Get some mud in the water asap

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No one is surprised. He will use any possible angle to use the military against us.

    Get ready for the government to declare a national emergency or some BS.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I mean, don't Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum regularly say things along the lines of if someone on the left was murdered, they would applaud it?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Of course he does. Pile the sins upon the scape goat before you exile it from the village.

    All he wants is for his people to do some revenge for him against those who reject him. So yeah he'll stoke that flame.

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