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[-] [email protected] 97 points 2 years ago

I saw a really funny exchange on this where some lib was like “ummm actually it’s the GOP that can’t govern and don’t pass anything” and someone was like “hey quick check, are abortions illegal in your area” and the liberal was like “oh ok the ONE social victory they’ve had in years…”

[-] [email protected] 65 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, what matters aren't insignificant "social victories" like

CW SA10 year old girls not being forced to birth the children of their abusers,
but how world-weary and grown up your party comes off when you kick off another war that costs millions of lifes.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I’m sure it’ll come as no surprise to you that the person reducing abortion rights to social questions with no material effects was a middle aged white man lol

[-] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago

The GOP passed a corporate tax cut on the scale of when Reagan slashed taxes in the 80s. They gave their corporate overlords everything they wanted and the Dems haven’t even suggested that they want to repeal it.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Even Obamacare, one of maybe 2 dem “victory” (gross as it is to say that) that Dems got through probably in my lifetime was so thoroughly compromised with the gop it’s arguably a worse situation than had that left it alone, definitely short of what I think any liberal would actually want if they weren’t lying to themselves. Even that has gop fingerprints all over it.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

like the bar is so fuckin low that dem voters are conditioned to view shit not getting bad quite as fast as the Republicans would want as a victory for them.

[-] [email protected] 78 points 2 years ago

Objectively true though. Manchin and Sinema tank all the Dems plans just for the lulz and no one in the DNC will even say anything bad about them, much less do anything other than shrug and say “oh well”. It’s honestly embarrassing.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago

It’s by design, if they had a 60 seat majority there would be 6 manchins

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Should there be a lack of Manchins, we shall invent a Manchin

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I know he's a rotten-brained LIB but Glenn Greenwald called this back when the public option was cut from Obamacare. The "rotating villain" of the DNC.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

If you dump enough energy into the qauntum foam you can create a true vacuum that will expand until a Manchin pops out to fill it.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

smol bean president can't stop the wall being built and a congressional majority couldn't repeal the funding and obligation.

anyway,

vote

[-] [email protected] 76 points 2 years ago

wtf this is literally spot on.

[-] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago

the dems should have the gop banners hanging too

[-] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago

and the gop should also have the dem banners

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The GOP hate the dems. They literally despise them. The only reason that they work together is because of the dems coming across the isle. The GOP doesn't really think of things like we do in this greater context. They don't see the material reality we do. Their politicians have drunk the kool-aid almost as much as their constituents have.

I remember an episode of citations needed where they were talking about how the republicans view the democrats compromising even when they have all the power. The GOP view it as patronizing. Their whole ideology is strength. It's why their first answer to every problem is drones or nukes, even if they don't go through with it. They don't have a sense of solidarity with the dems. Hillary clinton is satan to them. Obama is stalin, hitler, and mao to them.

Despite the material reality of two similarly capitalist parties who unite to squelch the working class. The Republicans take a capacity for excessive force as a given and anything less as a direct threat to the nation. So the Dems never get brownie points for using brown shirts. Because the republicans literally can't imagine anything left of the dems besides revolutionary communists. And sometimes they view them as exactly that. They're fucking dumb as hell.

When you repeat things because they are politically convenient, but you have no capacity for self reflection, eventually you start to believe it. Some of them understand some parts of reality but they all have major blind spots filled in with delusions of grandeur and sadism. The kissengers are in power no longer. Only the failsons.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

Sounds like good cop, bad cop.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

^This is astrology for the people who enjoyed debate club in high school. This is your brain on liberalism.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I dont know how to respond to something this vague. But maybe thats the point?

I could explain the material conditions that lead to the phenomena im describing.

Also "everything is rooted in material conditions" doesnt mean that hyper-nationalist, capitalist, prosperity gospel believing people understand reality. They can be dumb and still win because everything is stacked in their favor.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's mostly a one way duality. Dems bootlick the GOP, GOP identifies itself by performatively hating Dems.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

The GOP knows how to wield power, unfortunately.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

"We want what's worst for everyone, we're just plain evil, but we pretend to be so with a heavy heart"

[-] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago

Well it kinda did aged bad, but it's because both parties are more like this now.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah the main disagreement is whether they support explicit fascism at home or abroad for now

Also whether to go to war with China or Russia first

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Biden is dirty, he wants em both at the same time

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

Whoa cool picture of the Canadian parliament. How did you get it in black and white?

[-] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What kind of wine sipping liberal really thinks the Democrats can govern? Or that their masters love life and themselves in a way we poors can't comprehend? epsteingelion

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

At first i thought that emoji was like a half cooked turkey behind one of those press conference tables with a bunch of microphones

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Me too, I thought it was a big shouldered frothing chud instead of a turkey though.

I still can't unsee it

[-] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago
[-] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago

Good catch, it's funny how everybody assumes he's blue maga and takes offense to the "we can't govern" when it's entirely possible he's maga and takes offense to "we want what's worst for everyone" because he thinks climate change is a Jewish hoax

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

Also, I can't name the person in the pfp for fear of being banned. That also could be a breadcrumb.

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago

It took me a second as well as rereading the title to realize the author meant the dem panel was inaccurate.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago

In the UK you could replace both top and bottom with Conservative Party Conference.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Conservative Party Conference Inside: "WE WANT WHATS WORSE FOR EVERYONE" "WE CANT GOVERN!"

Conservative Party Conference Inside: "WE HATE LIFE AND OURSELVES" "WERE JUST PLAIN EVIL"

ukkk

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

Spotted the ActBlue donor.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

Nah, man that Michael Jackson episode aged like 50 year old milk

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