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“Disincentives” is a fancy way of saying that Kendall believes the current benefits system gives people so much money that they’d rather not work. This is a blatant lie. The Joseph Rowntree Foundation found that in 2023:

Our social security safety net no longer provides enough to afford even essentials.

Damningly, their research found that:

The basic rate of Universal Credit – its standard allowance – is now at its lowest level in real terms in almost 40 years.

the authors of the report state that public trust in the department is “sorely damaged.” In a rarity for reports written by government committees on how the benefits system functions, the authors of the report make it clear that:

some DWP policies can unintentionally create and exacerbate existing vulnerabilities. For example, where sanctions and the threat of sanctions can lead to material deprivation, stress, and the deterioration of physical and mental health. Or, where the experience of engaging with the system and processes has been so difficult and distressing, that it has contributed to claimants deciding to take their own life.

Over several years there are known to have been hundreds of serious harms and deaths of claimants, many of which could have been prevented had DWP discharged its responsibilities more effectively.

And, they also state that they’re aware that the actual figures of the serious harms and deaths of claimants are grossly under-reported. They write that:

We recognise the significance of every harm and death experienced by claimants, and the impact of these cases on loved ones.

Kendall’s comments just a month after the release of the safeguarding report are nothing short of scandalous. Research has repeatedly shown that benefits claimants are living in poverty, struggling to afford the basics. And, on top of that, research and lived experience tells us that disabled and chronically ill people are particularly vulnerable when it comes to having to deal with the DWP.

Kendall’s comments have barely caused a flutter in the mainstream media. However, the fact that she can claim that poor and vulnerable people need incentives to work – and currently do not have them – is horrific. Kendall has clearly never been in a position where people are ‘incentivised’ into choosing how many meals to skip in order to make it to the end of the week. She’s clearly never had to think about ‘incentives’ to work whilst in debilitating pain that forces people to break their bodies trying to feed their families.

Ultimately, the safeguarding report demonstrates what claimants for benefits have been saying for years: the DWP is not just failing to provide a safety net for people. It is causing active harm that piecemeal reforms cannot address. Kendall is just another piece of the rot at the DWP.

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[-] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Basing a person's right to live on the exchange value they can create, creates a perverse incentive to exploit other people.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

Did they miss the part where disabled people can't work?

[-] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Many of us sort of can. I believe I could work enough to secure my subsistence if I had access to the means of production, but the fact of my being unable to do more than that, that I can produce no surplus for Porky to skim, is the very reason I am denied that access. My labor is worse than useless to a capitalist; it offends him by throwing his own perverse incentives into sharp relief. He wants nothing more from people like me than to cease to exist without causing a fuss.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think this is a huge point. In contrast to basically any other economic system ever, modern capitalism requires job roles to be maximally replaceable while being maximally exploited (for profit/wage slavery reasons). Capacity to do some meaningful work is basically irrelevant when profit incentives (basically explicitly) direct employers not to give a shit about anyone who can't be equally churned into cash.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Roman slavery was very similar from this point of view IMO.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No they just dont care.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's the burger myth of the welfare queen but for the UK.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

The welfare queen thing wasn’t just a myth, it was an outright lie

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

porky-happy: “Give me a subsidy and I’ll make jobs!”

porky-happy: “Sorry, I tricked you! Give me another subsidy and maybe I’ll consider hiring for realsies this time!”

Somehow not a welfare queen

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah it was one woman who was committing welfare fraud and went to jail for it, but the reactionaries presented her as the typical welfare recipient.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Yup, it was first peddled by Reagan I think.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

We need to get rid of disability benefits to encourage people to get jobs. Also, we gotta make sure the unemployment rate stays high enough to keep inflation down.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

not spending your entire life creating wealth for the upper-crust is just perversity

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

Dignity of work

Arbeit macht frei

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Always funny how “no one owes you anything” but its hammered that you should work solely because it is the ‘Right Thing To Do^TM^’.

…and then not hire you, anyways.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

A very common idea held by people who are usually quite adamant about getting it for people they know personally while wanting to deny it for everyone else.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

High wages and barriers to recall give MPs a "perverse disincentive" to give a fuck about anything other than what their upper class rulers desire.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

these people are murderers and should be treated as such

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

anyone can become disabled, at any time (stochastic threat)

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