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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That’s a super shitty thing to do

He’s basically cheating and stealing from 35 people

[-] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago

Dude outed himself when he told Janice his birthday was the 35th of March.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago

I'm stupid, can someone explain to me how this is illegal? Like morally questionable I get, but how is it illegal?

[-] [email protected] 82 points 3 days ago

According to a quick Google fraud in Japan is

obtaining property or illicit economic advantages through deceit.

Gifts I assume are property here

[-] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago

Jesus Christ! Can we get some of that law in the US?!

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

We do - romance scams are fraud, and they're illegal.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Enforcement is the issue. Cops in the USA wouldn't care about this.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Cops in the US still care about a lot of laws which people don't even give fk about in LATAM, SA and SEA

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Best I can do is legalizing corruption and then spend billion dollars on public programs explaining how lobbying helps the people, not capitalism

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

The only thing that will stop them is the modern day equivalent of people walking out of rome, leaving the elites to make everything themselves.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I've studied laws like that for the better part of 25 years and I've formulated this new law ointment I'd like to call Lawinment2.0! IRS available at Walmart for $17.75! And the shipping is free because its a download. Just pay as you normally would thru Walmart pay and then head on over to laws.com and receive your free gift! And if you pay thru laws.com to receive a free 5% offer on an additional law you'll also receive this custom deluxe gorme designer bag gift pin retainer. Its our way of saying thank you! And thank you George Carling for this fine comedy bit.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Presumably he had to give 35 presents too.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

That's what I'm wondering. Perhaps he gives a mean back and foot massage.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Or he's just good with the D. He might also be good at delivering other Vitamins too

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[-] [email protected] 67 points 3 days ago

Hoping that isn’t real because that’s kind of an f-ed up definition for fraud. Also, what a legend.

[-] [email protected] 79 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's pretty much the textbook definition of fraud. What are you talking about?

Fraud is defined as intentional deception to deprive a victim of a legal right or to gain unlawfully from a victim.

He intentionally deceived 35 people for material gain. It's even more fraud if he deceived each one about only dating them.

In the US that could also potentially be rape by deception if any of them slept with him because they thought they were exclusive.

[-] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago

It’s a poor definition because gift exchanges are strictly voluntary and non-reciprocal engagements. I’m not saying what he did was ok or even legal in other contexts. My only point is that I wouldn’t consider this fraud because the victims were not compelled to give. This isn’t a Nigerian prince scam where the victims were promised greater returns at a later date. These victims gave with the expectation of monetary loss.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Seems to fit the official definition pretty neatly. Colloquially, I tend to agree with you, there's a spectrum for fraud. But this still counts as fraud. It's a fraudulent misrepresentation of the truth to convince others to part with something of value (a gift).

The fact that it's a gift doesn't change that this is fraud, only the severity of fraud in a legal sense.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value

Advertising and politics?

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago
  1. image of text: there's this cool alternative called text that doesn't break the web or accessibility. linking to source & quoting text makes an altogether better web for everyone.
  2. dictionary definition: not an official, legal definition.
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[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

By that logic, fake fundraisers and romance scams shouldn't be illegal either.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

They're technically voluntary but also socially expected. I'm not sure about birthday gifts in particular but Japan is a country where if you go on holiday somewhere you're expected to bring a gift for each of your coworkers, and people will think worse of you for not doing that. I'd be kind of surprised if omitting birthday gifts for your romantic partner without prior agreement is a real option.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

So, it's not fraud if I tell my grandma with dementia that it's my birthday once a week so she keeps giving me birthday checks?

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's pretty much the textbook definition of fraud. What are you talking about?

Fraud is defined as intentional deception to deprive a victim of a legal right or to gain unlawfully from a victim.

That's what most politicians do every election. Just saying.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Most politicians are absolutely guilty of fraud.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

I do Not See the fraud here. If He would have given the Girls His real Birthday, He would have still received the Same amount of Gifts. Nothing would have changed in exchanging the Gifts.

The only Thing, which it probably helped at, was that He could plan ahead for the birthdays, avoiding a Potential meet-in of each girl, that He dated on the Same Day. The only Thing He is gullible of ist deceiving the Woman on their Relationship. Which is Not an offenes in a legal Sense. There is no punishment for 2-timing, so 35-timing should Not have either

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

What’s going on with your capitalization? I spent way too much time looking for hidden messages and came away with nothing except the - entirely unrelated - hypothesis that you are German.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not OP:
In other languages (like German) nouns are capitalized.
I often write mails inside Europe that way to make it easy readable and put focus on the stuff I find necessary.

For English native speakers it's probably really looks like hidden code ;⁠-⁠)

Edit: ok, read said comment and you're right. That's just like throwing a dice...

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

There is no mention of any consideration (a legal term meaning he didn’t promise them anything in return) provided by the “boyfriend”.

This would not be fraud under English common law.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

You don't have to promise anything in return for it to be fraud. If I start a Go Fund Me because I have cancer when I really don't have cancer, the people donating aren't promised anything in return. It's still fraud.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The consideration is the exclusive romantic relationship. They wouldn't have given him gifts if they didn't believe they were in a relationship.

But this is probably fake.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the addition

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Found the guy with 35 girlfriend.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Look at that smile. He regrets nothing.

Also: Daily Mail source?.......this story is entirely fiction and made up, guaranteed.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

In one bed no less. Must be an Alaska king

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Is that the gift economy I keep hearing about?

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