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[-] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago

Gamepass is a super-obvious telegraphed trap for enshittification. Offer a good value (it is, for the time being), get people dependent on it, then pull the rug out.

How many times have we already seen this?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

One of the shit thing is that all the games that I've bought in the last 5 years all has come into game pass.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago

Isn't this an old strategy of microsoft? Dump shitload of money into a market, then once you captured a significant portion start the enshittification.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

It is classic tech company strategy.

We saw it with Amazon offering suspicious deals for years on name brand stuff to kill competitors. Uber offering subsidized rides to kill taxis. Google Photos offering unlimited free storage

If it seems too good to be true, check under your feet and see if there's a rug there.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Of Microsoft? That's like business 101 my dude, and mostly why business schools should be burned to the ground. The system we have stifles innovation and promotes greed. We fucked.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Except now it's just spyware

[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

Game pass might be the best deal in gaming, but you are selling your soul to the devil for it. It will ultimately harm gaming, especially developers long term. We should reject game pass.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

Yet another example of:

C Suite / Upper Management doesn't listen when a seasoned software engineer of some kind points out an extremely obvious medium/long-run problem with the business model they're being asked to either functionally invent, or massively contribute to.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

The goal is to lose money to capture the market and once it is done, to recoup their loss and bleed the market dry.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Sooo... Gamepass is one of the services that is driving up the price of the non-gamepass versions of those games, right? They've got to recoup costs somehow, and then the rest of the industry takes that as an opportunity to consider these inflated prices as the new baseline.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Games are a lot more expensive to make now. While the tooling has improved, the cost of labor has risen-sadly not enough to keep pace with the cost of living. The cost of a game to the consumer is also a lot cheaper than it was in even the 90’s. So you have a lead gen strategy in gamepass that forces them to recoup in other areas but they still aren’t able to recoup enough. Because of political monetary policies which gamers don’t really want to think about, currencies are worth less (USD lost 7% this year already-$100 bill is now worth $93) and the game prices haven’t adjusted to compensate. In short, games are hitting a similar wall to movies where in a world with Netflix, everything is going to end up looking like mediocre trash if it has to be basically free.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The market has also increased 1000-times over, while simultaneously removing physical barriers entirely. The development itself is more expensive, sure, but distribution is way cheaper and the potential gains have increased at a much quicker rate, especially for smaller games.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

I think it was Netflix that went through a period of releasing movies in cinemas and putting it on streaming on day one.

It was such a resounding success that they no longer do that.

I guess MS has deep enough pockets to not realise their folly yet. PSN Premium/Extra isn't as good value from a consumer point of view, but it also hasn't killed their own console. What that cannibalises is the "wait for a sale" people, who would likely have paid £20 for a game a year or two down the line. I think that's a more manageable than losing all the day one £65 sales.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I thought that was during Covid.

I'm honestly surprised that movie theaters even exist still. Motion picture groups basically starve the theaters to the point where they can only survive off of concessions. The places are almost universally dirty and understaffed. Most of the mom and pop shops died off decades ago.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

According to Wikipedia, they started it in 2015 with Beasts of No Nation and stopped in 2018 with Roma.

Lots of others did it during covid though.

The last time I actually enjoyed a cinema was a tiny little place in Iceland that appeared to have two screens, a ticket stand and a snack stand, and had one old guy running between all of them like a novelty act. This is how a cinema should be, not some horrible 12 screen thing showing the same Marvel shite at 20 minute intervals.

We did see Die Hard 4 though, so it wasn't all fun and games. Still it could have been worse. It could have been Die Hard 5...

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

And as an industry they return less than the sp500 so not only is movie viewing horrible, movie making is a terrible investment .

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Game pass is good for one month and playing like 3 single player games. But it’s really been the final nail, last gasp whatever you want to call it for XBOX. Its not sustainable, has stalled out and larger developers have had enough of getting f**** over.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

This has been so obvious from the beginning, and now that it’s too late is when they starting to complain.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

backlog gamepass would be hype. Like, this whole thing is shit and old game should probably cycle into the public domain; if a corp put work into keeping old games playable, how cool would that be?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

"But if you offer all these old games to play, why would anyone bother buying the new stuff?" - some corpo director

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Maybe it says more about me than about game pass, but even at 5€ a month it would be significantly more money than I spend on games every year.

Not that I couldn't afford it, but I mostly play games that are at least 5 to 10 years old, either on second-hand physical copies or heavily discounted sales/keyshops. The most recent game I've bought is Elden Ring, even then only recently because I found a cheap physical copy.

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