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(Text below written by @[email protected]. Hope you don't mind me yoinking it for here!)

The European Citizens' Initiative 'Stop Destroying Videogames' is nearing its deadline on July 31st and is still missing quite a lot of signatures. To be precise, at the time of writing this post, only 560.000 of the required 1.000.000 signatures have been reached.

Another requirement has already been fulfilled: The minimum signature threshold has been reached in 10 countries, 7 were required.

If this is the first time of you hearing about this initiative, here's a short TL;DR for you (more detailed information can be found here):

  • Publishers that sell or license videogames should have to leave their videogames in a functional (playable) state.
  • This means: Remote disabling of video games (such as live service titles) without providing means of keeping the game functional without the involvement of the publisher should be illegal.
  • This does NOT mean that publishers should support their games forever, but rather that they provide tools (such as server binaries) to enable others to keep the game playable.

The initiative is slowly picking up speed again recently after its creator published a video explaining some of the background and why he doesn't want to continue after the initiative is over. The video has been well-received by the community and some big influencers have reported on the topic.

If you are an EU citizen and have not signed yet, THIS IS THE TIME! The month until the deadline is met will pass quickly. Use two minutes of your time to influence something that may improve your life forever!

CLICK HERE TO SIGN. (or click here for a guide on how to sign in your language)

Also, if you are a UK citizen, you can sign a UK specific legal petition that also carries legal weight (forces parliament to investigate the issue). You can sign that here: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago

looks like GamersNexus is covering it on their consumer advocacy channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ahH6HrtTc&pp=0gcJCc4JAYcqIYzv

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Yes! They'll also be plugging it on their main channel soon.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Don't have many bluesky followers, but i made an awareness post - everyone i know and who cares has already signed :-)

[-] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Unless someone corrects me, I think his argument boils down to, "we shouldn't allow the release of server binaries for online-enabled games because it's too hard for the developers".

Well, if that's the case, then Thor, that's a "you" (the company) problem. Not a "me" (the consumer) problem. And if you're not going to release a server binary but we're "buying" the game, purchasers have legitimate moral and legal grounds to demand that they be informed that they are buying a license, or renting, the game; they are not owning a functional copy of the game outright.

I'm turning 42 this. I've been a software developer for 15 years now. I'd like to even say that a few of those years I even came across like I knew what I was talking about. But this basic issue is not about software development. This is about consumer advocacy, And it was a super huge turn off to watch him perform the mental gymnastics on why people should be screwed over.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Its not allowing the release, its requiring it.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

Thor reminds me a lot of chatgpt. Subjects that I am not an expert in, he sounds intelligent and like he is providing good advice. The second he provides advice in an area where I am a subject matter expect, it makes me realize how full of shit he is.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

I mean, big YouTubers like Charlie and others covering Thor’s bullshit is what drove this huge spike in signatures so maybe we should be thanking Thor lol

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

Nah, fuck Thor — he could have been the YouTuber pushing for coverage of Stop Killing Games, instead he decided to double down on his stupid bullshit.

Reminder — he was a Blizzard employee for 7 years. I think that, plus his 'my shit doesn't stink and if you think it does, you're wrong and banned' attitude should give you all you need to know.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

"Fuck you, Thor, but also thanks. But definitely fuck you, Thor."

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

"And by thanks I actually means fuck you"

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

Fuck, I would sign but I'm a piece of shit American.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Helping spread the word is still an option, and would be greatly appreciated! :D

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fuck that. I’m sending this to everyone I know. Gamer or not. Common sense alone demands a signature.

Edit: This far 2 gamers finally put their signatures on it and 4 non gamers went with it too. So with me we’re at 7 signatures.

I did my part. But I think it won’t be enough. Yes, after Ross spoke up every content creator and their grandparents started shitting in Pirates mouth and is advertising the petition like crazy. But sadly these kind of things are a bit circle jerky and will be watched by the same people.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I'm an American citizen living in the Netherlands; I have a renewed 5-year residency permit. Am I allowed to sign? I'm guessing no, but maybe there's an allowance for EU residents, not just citizens?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure it's just EU citizens. If you can't vote in elections there, you probably can't sign this.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

The Dutch allow me to vote for the Water Management Board of my town. Other than that, no, I can't vote in the other elections. 😢

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It saddens me that my country (Italy) has such a low percentage of signatures. Most of us are either ignorant of anything happening outside of our borders, or straight up doomers who don't believe anything can ever change for the better.

Big congrats to my fellow northern cousins. I was expecting Poland, who has a healthy videogame industry, to gather a good enough number of signatures, but 160% is wild! It's refreshing seeing so many people joining the petition - It's not even about videogames: this initiative will have huge repercussions on the lifespan of other, unrelated products and, in general terms, planned obsolescence.

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[-] [email protected] 124 points 3 days ago

Don't Give Up. You Can Cuss The Whole Time Just Don't Give Up.

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[-] [email protected] 86 points 3 days ago

This also has big implications for consumer rights and society as a whole in other areas of digital technology and right to repair, it is a foot in the door to start actually holding manufacturers responsible for the full lifecycle of their products (digital and real) that requires them to actually relinquish their control when their product reaches end-of-commercial-life, instead of turning everything into digital garbage out of what basically amounts to apathy and compulsive rights hoarding.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

Makes me wish I was European so I could sign it too.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

In that case, help spread the word.

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[-] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago

Drama drives these things. I totally understand Ross not wanting to engage in it 10 months ago but look at what it can do.

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

I hope the wording of the petition is very clear. The last time this was brought up in the UK the government of the time basically just brushed it off by intentionally misunderstanding the petition. You can't give them any leeway to do that this time.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Signed the UK parliament one, sadly drowning in those Brexit benefits when it comes to the other.

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