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[-] [email protected] 180 points 3 days ago

Well, consulting is often used because they need an answer to a question. That may be open-ended like:

"What moves should we make to expand our business?"

But other times they just want confirmation:

"Should we merge with Discovery?" (Sure, I guess. Here are some reasons you could. cha-ching)

"Should we split with Discovery?" (Sure, I guess. Here are some reasons you could. cha-ching)

Other times they just need to pay people to give them excuses to lay off people. McKinsey's always available for that.

[-] [email protected] 121 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

When Chipotle got a new CEO (Brian Niccol, who has since become the Starbucks CEO) a few years back, they were headquartered in Denver. But the CEO lived in Newport Beach. So they brought in a consulting management firm to examine where the best place in the country was for them to have their corporate headquarters.

After weeks of analysis - surprise, surprise - they determined that the best place they could possibly have a corporate headquarters was in Newport Beach, where the CEO lived.

So they fired most of their corporate workers and moved the office to be closer to the CEOs house.

[-] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago

“Sorry we don’t do remote work and you’ll have to come into the office.”

“Counterpoint: …”

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Starbucks has a mandatory 3 day a week RTO policy, but this same CEO did not relocate from Newport beach to Seattle.

Instead, he has the corporate private jet fly him 2000 miles round trip every week.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Seems like a solid solution. Why doesn't everyone just do that?

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

I have experienced this where I work. There is a consulting company that gets rolled out to make packets full of "data", graphs, summaries, and surveys that always manages to support the unpopular thing the boss wants.

[-] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

McKinsey:

For when you have no fucking clue how to do your job, and want authoritative, plausible deniability about that.

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[-] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago

Other times they just need to pay people to give them excuses to lay off people. McKinsey’s always available for that.

What would you say... you do here?

[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago

Get paid to do the work of someone who could be employed for a reasonable salary, but the board or CEO wants the answer to come from someone outside the company to avoid taking any blame.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Look, I already told you: I deal with the goddamn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills. I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that!? What the hell is wrong with you people!!

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

Sounds like a job that would be easy to replace with ChatGPT.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

And if you are wondering why the German military is being made fun of so much: it's McKinsey again. But no worries, we took care if it. The minister of defense in charge back then is long gone. Cause she is the president of the European Commission now. Multiple of her children have worked for McKinsey in the past. What a coincidence!

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

All consulting is like this. It’s a way to offload blame for your decisions by not making any in-house.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Our company paid a consulting firm 100k to deliver the same message our internal had been saying for 5 years.

Oh yes. The board member used to work for that consultancy.

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[-] [email protected] 151 points 3 days ago

Consulting services are vital because they improving corporate synergy by utilizing market solutions and relocating potential where it is needed most.

[-] [email protected] 90 points 3 days ago

Don’t forget that they also leverage institutional assets to extract value using best practices!

[-] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago

We'll circle back to that.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Can I talk to you offline?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask, which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an aftershave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturiser, then an anti-ageing eye balm followed by a final moisturising protective lotion.

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[-] [email protected] 77 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

TLC used to be The Learning Channel. Before it was “here’s a bunch of children who are being sexually abused behind the camera,” it was educational outreach. Vocational training. Satellite college courses for people in Alaska and Appalachia.

Then Discovery bought it. Fuck Discovery.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

One of my favorite channels. I liked learning new stuff. Factual stuff. Not conspiracy theories disguised as history.

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago

From my (fortunately) brief experience in software consulting, I can confirm that is an important unwritten rule of the job. It doesn't matter what exactly you sell to customers, as long as they are willing to buy it and come back. It explains why a lot of software is dogshit.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

"I can't produce anything, so I'll take money away from other people doing business" ~consultants

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

The real skill isn't the advice - it's convincing executives that contradicting your previous $100M recommendation somehow validates hiring you again.

🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱

[-] [email protected] 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"What's your advice?"

"My advice is to not take my advice. That'll be 63 million dollars, please."

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

"Certainly Sir! Money well spent!"

You have to understand why they are employed though - somebody stands to gain from doing some thing, so the way they get to justify doing that thing is to hire these people, so they come in, deliver a report that says the thing is the best thing to do with graphs that go up, and it happens, McKinsey gets paid, the beneficiary gets what they want and life goes on.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

That plus there's a massive incentive for overpaid executives to farm out any actual decision-making to consultants. They could lose their cushy jobs if they did something unpopular that made the news and hurt stock prices. But if the decision was promoted by an expensive consulting firm, that launders the blame. It hurts the business in a fundamental way, obviously, but publicly traded companies have not been very focused on fundamentals up until lately. Tighter monetary policy should have changed this, but the paradigm has been slow to shift for many.

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[-] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago

In, fire 30 percent of the workforce, new logo, boom, out.

You are now a fully trained management consultant.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Lean leader certified

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I had a friend who did consulting right out of college. Half the time he said it was his job to suggest layoffs so the people in charge could pretend it wasn't their idea.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Consulting services rarely are there to help figure out what to do, they're there to help convince other people that what you want to do is the right move.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

A lot of high paying decision making jobs could be done much better if they were actually given to people based on their talents and not who they know or are related to.

The hardest part about the job is getting it

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Man I wish I knew how to grift rich people like this

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

Isn't the google ceo a McKinsey stooge?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Yes, he is. It explains a lot.

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't know who this person is but something tells me he is the son of a wealthy family who has connections to all of those brands.

How far off am i?

That job does not sound like a real job, it sounds like a job title that is a thinly veiled excuse to arrange perpetual exclusive socialism for the rich.

Thank you for reading my analysis, the bill, regardless wether i am correct is about 69.420mil

[-] [email protected] 67 points 3 days ago

Mckinsey is a company with over 45,000 employees.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

So many morons getting paid way to much money to make stupid decisions.

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[-] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

You aint wrong, McKinsey is the ultimate job farm for mid grade nepo babies and/or elite school graduates.

For example, Ursula von der Leyen hired McKinsey for German Army re-org...

then both of her children got plush jobs at the firm, her daughters 3 years there then leveraged into elite degree a Stanford

https://fsi.stanford.edu/people/johanna-von-der-leyen

Johanna joins the Ford Dorsey Master’s in International Policy from McKinsey’s Sustainability Practice. During her 3.5 years at the management consultancy, she advised private sector clients from various industries on sustainability strategies and developed reports on climate risk with the McKinsey Global Institute. During her parental leave from McKinsey, she received a Master of Philosophy in Environmental Policy from the University of Cambridge (UK). She also holds a bachelor’s degree in Politics and Economics from the University of Münster. At Stanford, Johanna hopes to deepen her knowledge in integrating environmental policies into the dynamics of international policymaking. Her academic interests also include nature- and climate-related risk assessment and adaptation, and particularly the role of nature-based solutions. Johanna is an outdoor enthusiast, a passionate dressage rider who participated in competitions on the highest national level in Germany, and she enjoys running and gardening in her spare time.

There is a club, and most people see it before their eyes and still somehow manage to not see it for it is.

Just work harder!

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

This company also advised multiple large opiate manufacturers.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

C'mon now...

If they can't charge all that money to be wrong. How can they pay the US government the $722,000,000.00 they owe?

The Justice Department said McKinsey Africa had received credit for cooperating with its investigation and conducting anti-corruption training for employees. The $122,850,000 McKinsey has agreed to fork up includes a penalty it will pay in South Africa.

McKinsey is also in talks with the Justice Department to pay more than $600 million to resolve a separate investigation into the consulting firm's work helping opioid manufacturers boost sales that allegedly contributed to a deadly addiction epidemic, people familiar with the matter have told Reuters.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/mckinsey-africa-pay-122-million-south-africa-bribery-scheme-us-justice-dept-says-2024-12-05/

You think Purdue Pharma could have made all those ~~drug addicts~~ customers without McKinsey pushing pills for them?

Won't some think of the Billionaires stock portfolios!

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Fuck McKinsey.

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