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alt text: Scene of The Punisher where he is desperate having a nightmare, captioned "When a tiling window manager user has to use a MacOS/Windows desktop"

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[-] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago

Using Windows feels like wading through mud. eeeuch

[-] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago

The real crime is how MacOS window animations take forever and don't switch input focus immediately.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

And if you disable animations, you still have to wait for focus. But the worst behavior is when you minimize a window and later cmd+tab to it and all windows just lose focus.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Maybe I’m weird, but I prefer the animations. It feels more natural than things just popping into my view in my opinion.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I don't take issue with the animations per se. They could be faster and transfer input immediately, and I would take no issue.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

That is true, animations can make your brain understand that something changed position faster than if they teleported.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

Wdym mouse? Might as well give me a touchscreen...

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

I’ve been working on my own macOS tiling window manager inspired by Gtile for gnome. I’ll probably put it on github at some point.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

That is dope man!

[-] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

Mac has an absence of window management. it's like the product owner stopped thinking halfway through the desktop experience and handed it over to the intern.

when demo day came the PO saw it and was shocked at how horrible it was but had to sell it to save their own ass.

they opened the whole demo with, "I want you to think about this experience and stop, then...think differently."

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

I don't use Windows anymore but Microsoft Powertoys exist. And I have no clue why they don't ship it with Windows by default...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

It's always my first install after Firefox.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Because like most things made for power users: it confuses and terrifies regular users.

Seriously, even with something as simple as Fancy Zones, regular users would get frustrated when they move a window while accidentally or purposely holding shift and their window reshapes itself.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

No one is "terrified" by programs and how exactly powertoys installed/integrated into OS will confuse anyone? You aren't obligated to use it.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Installed komorebi + altdrag + autohotkey + fluent search on my work windows, janky af but "works"

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I should add that Aerospace release update to my wm community aswell

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Okay give me the short and simple. What window manager should I try. I'm using an off shoot of Fedora.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Hyprland is awesome. Simple config + good out of the box experience

But for almost all tiling managers I recommend you steal your first config from r/unixporn and then just adapt it

@[email protected] @[email protected]

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I quite like Hyprland

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

BSPWM + lxqt/ xfce (lxqt recommended)

You'll also need SXHKD for better and easier shortcut handling

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Linux developers can't name their products any better than they name their variables.

"Programming done, time to publish, now it just needs a name..." briefly pauses, then smashes face into keyboard... "There! ... ehh, no, still missing something." clicks random spot, types X... "Perfect! Send it!"

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

To be fair, neither can enterprise outfits.

Teams

New Teams

Teams (new)

Probably more that I forgot

[-] Quibblekrust 4 points 3 days ago

Neither can Nintendo.

3DS
New 3DS
Wii
Wii U

Well, they at least got the name of Switch 2 right. They finally learned.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

For a long time I used the music player ncmpcpp. The name makes perfect sense if you already know what it means and how it relates to other things.

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[-] Quibblekrust 2 points 3 days ago

I prefer KMFDM/XKCD.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

There are tiling window managers for win and mac too, so i don't think this meme makes sense

[-] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

"Window Managers" don't exist on windows and mac. There's third party programs that re-position your windows. But you can't replace the window manager for these OSs. AFAIK they don't have a concept of a window manager. Its all one seemless desktop experience.

Love to be proven wrong or at least shown an adequate alternate. Because pic is me in a few weeks. Goodbye slack, google, and zoom. Hello M$ TEAMS.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I'm not clear on what the distinction is that you're referring to. How are the Linux window managers different than the win/mac ones?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Window managers in Linux take direct command from the display server (Xorg, Wayland, etc.) to decide where to position windows and what they should look like. Whereas "window managers" on MacOS/Windows are tricking the original window manager provided by the OS into positioning windows a certain way. I'm simplifying here, but hope that clears things up.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Thanks for the info, but what is the functional difference to the end user?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

They're limited by what the original window manager allows them to do. Sway has its whole own window manager, so it can do whatever it wants.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Window_manager

  • Stacking (aka floating) window managers provide the traditional desktop metaphor used in commercial operating systems like Windows and macOS. Windows act like pieces of paper on a desk, and can be stacked on top of each other. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Stacking window managers.
  • Tiling window managers "tile" the windows so that none are overlapping. They usually make very extensive use of key-bindings and have less (or no) reliance on the mouse. Tiling window managers may be manual, offer predefined layouts, or both. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Tiling window managers.
  • Dynamic window managers can dynamically switch between tiling or floating window layout. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Dynamic window managers.

Mac and Windows window managers aren't different from Linux window managers. (Other than being difficult or impossible to replace). What you are calling "window managers" are software that reposition the windows after the actual window manager has positioned it.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I use Amethyst on Mac and it's quite good but it is a fancy repositioning system because it bugs out a few times a day and I need to force a refresh.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Most people forced to use those likely wouldn't have time/permission to install them.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

As much as I despise Windows while also using archlinux/i3-wm as my daily driver...

Tiling is no rocket science. Basically every stacking window manager including Windows can do it well enough to be usable with just a few properly configured defaults and short-keys.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

It’s true, I’m completely broken. I can’t even use a stacking window manager on Linux, I’m instantly pissed off

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I use Rectangle whenever I need to do some tiling go decent effect.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Aren't most windows already some form of rectangle? /s

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

This me. Gonna set up RDP and just remote in from my desktop. I'd rather find a new job than be that unproductive.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

It honestly feels like an alien device to me... wdym, firefox-nightly isn't just in WS 3, reachable by pressing Super + 3, but somewhere in that list in of Alt + Tab and I have to search that shit?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Outlook has a ChatGPT tab now. Good times good times.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Can confirm

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

The reverse for me lol. Mouse-heavy user here

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