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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

o7

This is why we need to save the bees.

[-] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago

Pouring one out for comrade bee's noble sacrifice 😞

[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

My condolences to that bee's hive for their loss.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

Always remember this day. The day when one, small bee gave his life for the cause.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago

Great news.

The only good billionaire, is a dead billionaire.

#BeesLivesMatter

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Sic semper apiaster

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

The world's poor..."Release the Bees!".

[-] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago

What a tragic loss. For the bee community.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

The question I ask myself is: You have that much money,you have a private jet on standby, a large security detail.

And none fucking thought about getting competent medical team or at least a fucking competent paramedic? I mean....I am generally unsympathetic amongst almost all billionaires, but as someone who has literally done VIP escorts as a critical care paramedic I wonder who fucked up that much.(But these were all "old wealth" and actually were not billionaires. And tbh they treated us with more respect than most members of the public do-that gives them at least some plus point)

It's not like Airway obstruction nor anaphylaxis is untreatable/isn't absolutely manageable if caught early.

Anyway, can we please get a fundraiser for the poor queen of that bee?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Anyway, can we please get a fundraiser for the poor queen of that bee?

It's on the front page of GoFundBee!

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Any med school student should know how to macguyver an airway in an emergency. They literally teach it in civilian lifesaving classes these days. My guess is this guy was such an asshole, his entire medical staff was like "bruh I am not making the hole, you do it."

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

I don't know which med school or civilian lifesaving courses you attend - but emergency cricothyrotomy surely isn't a skill that is taught and mastered by any of these I teach.

Cric is a delicate skill that needs repetition and knowledge - it's far from easy and not even close to what is shown in some bad TV shows.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

As it came up here a bit of a longer explanation.

  1. Airway management contains much more than just "getting a hole into the neck" - it starts with nebulised adrenaline (which works wonders but must be used in moderation due to the side effects), regular endotracheal intubation with a (preferably video)laryngoscope, if necessary with a tube that is resistant against swelling(woodbridge tube) before a cricothyrotomy (not a tracheotomy,see below) is performed - and is supported by intravasal drugs (mostly adrenaline, a glucocorticoid and H1 blockers, in some cases also a beta2 antagonist and a anticholinergic agent). A cric is always the last choice due to the high risk to benefit ratio.

  2. Even a qualified responder won't do a tracheotomy - emergency tracheotomies are extremly rare and basically only necessary when either the pharyngeal structures are damaged beyond rescue (due to trauma, cancer or some real rare diseases. This is not the case in anaphylaxis. The reasons for a tracheotomy not being used are many. It takes a lot of time,is far harder to achieve (getting between the tracheal cartilage is not as easy as it sounds), the risk of "hitting" structures that are vital to the patient are considerable (seen a patient who's v.jug. ran over the spot) and the required training to do it is considerable - Besides ENTs and sometimes intensivists around here none therefore is even trained to do it anymore. I occasionally teach emergency surgical techniques to interns and med students and we don't do so,beyond explaining the core concept, neither does any uni in central or northern Europe that I know of, same goes for AU/NZ.

  3. A "cric" is far easier, but still takes some skill - both needle or open surgical cric(I would prefer the later) does require correct identification of the landmarks (which can be tough), good surgical technique and mainly: Training - lots of it. We therefore teach paramedics only a needle based approach (in combination with jet ventilation) - and tbh, most EM docs are not that "up to standard" in this technique as well - even though a cric is far easier than a trach.

  4. The technique mentioned here will, with a 95% chance, not lead to any airway access, damage the thyroid (which bleeds like fuck) or the vagina carotica (the structure that contains the large vessels in the neck as well as the nervus vagus). If that happens the patient is usually beyond rescue. A case that, even if in cardiac arrest, had at least a slim chance of survival, will then certainly die - post anaphylaxis arrests with good bystander CPR have a somewhat improved prognosis - considering that that a laymans trach likely would diminish chest compression quality for minutes this would simply take that chance away from the patient.

  5. Whoever thinks he needs to teach that in civilan responder courses needs to be fired - it's not part in any curriculum worldwide as they are all more or less based on the same guidelines.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Edit, I am not saying "do this". I was running my ideas past this medical person in the hope of being told what is wring with them.

As a civilian what I know is hit the notch in hard cartilege approx 2 fingers below the Adam's apple, incision half an inch deep, and if you get the tube in you have to breathe for them.

And that you should only do it if there are no medical people present and the person is obviously dying.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So... how do you tell an airway obstruction requiring an improvised tracheotomy and a similarly-presenting respiratory distress (resulting from, say, catastrophically low blood potassium) apart? Because if you get that wrong suddenly someone, who needed at worst an hour of IV therapy and a flintstone chewable to make a full recovery, is drowning in their own blood.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Nothing beats a layman explaining the job most professionals won't do to a professional who does it.

BTW: This is all wrong and will make things worse. Please don't do what this dude writes.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Yikes. It was not meant to be advice. Sorry for not making that clearer. I have edited the original comment.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Eh I have no knowledge about tracheotomy besides what I've seen on TV but I mean if push comes to shove I'm just gonna jab a pen tube in the victim's throat man, it's gotta be worth a try. /s

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Hell, I'd jab a pen in your throat right now if I suspected it would somehow improve your health

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

Nature is healing.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

The more we have animals exhibiting human behaviors, on top of whales & bees straight up attacking billionaires, the easier it is to believe in a collective subconscious.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

keeping all that money didn't bring more security in this regard

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Frankly his lavish lifestyle of bee eating was, in retrospect, not a good idea.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

oh no. Where will we find another rich douche to replace him?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, I'm sure his assets will be distributed among the poor and starving people in the world.

Right?

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

BEES! GET YOUR BEES HERE! SPICY FLIES, ALL DAY LONG. GET YOUR BEES HERE!

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[-] [email protected] 84 points 2 days ago

I wanna bee a billionaire, so fucking bad

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[-] [email protected] 147 points 2 days ago

Ah this is terrible.

The bee population is already struggling, and there's no way this one survived after getting stuck in dude's throat.

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